Wiring Diagrams online?

Are there any Internet sources for chassis wiring diagrams, dash
harness color codes, accessories, lights, etc?
Looking for Voyager/Caravan 85-86 timeframe.
TIA
Bob

 

Yes. The source is www.alldata.com. For $25 (1-year subscription) you
get on-line access to the stuff (including schematics) right out of the
FSM, and also the full TSB's for your vehicle. ($15 for additonal
vehicles and annual renewals).

I assume it goes back to 86/86 - but you'll have to check.

Bill Putney
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adddress with the letter 'x')

 

Bob, sorry to have to post this because now your going to have to fight
others for it, but that's what you get for posting from a bogus e-mail
address.

Here's the manual you want:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7930840054&category=34218

You might also e-mail him to make sure the following isn't an accidental
double posting:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7930840103&category=34218

Ted

 

Ted, thanks for the references. The occasional inconvenience of a
bogus email address far outweighs the incontinence of spam and a host
of other problems. Appreciate the references. Bob

 

Darn spell check! I meant "inconvenience" of spam..... !
Bob

 

Heh! I thought "incontinence" fit very well.

Bill Putney
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adddress with the letter 'x')

 

You might also check to see if your local library has a subscription to
the service. One of the libraries near me lists Alldata as a service they
have available. I'm going to pay them a visit this week.

 

I've used alldata for several years and for the most part have been pleased
with it. However, just last weekend I went there to verify the connections
between plugs and the coil pack. Much to my surprise the information was
wrong. Luckily I had made a note of the way the old connections were made.

 

Unless my understanding is wrong, the only way their info. would be
wrong is if the FSM is wrong because the stuff on alldata is copied -
not re-writeen, re-typed, or reformated - but taken directly
word-for-word, figure-for-figure out of the FSM.

(I will say that I took the bait on the CD-ROM manuals that
alldata/popular mechanics used to market about 10 or so years ago, and
they were fraudulently awful - worse than any hardcopy aftermarket
manual I've ever seen. However they apparently cleaned up their act
with the on-line subscription stuff. I don't know if they still sell
the CD's. If so, I hope it's just a copy of the on-line info. and that
they got out of the con business.)

Bill Putney
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adddress with the letter 'x')

 

Did you let them know about it so they can fix their data?

Ted

 

Yes, I notified them. FWIW, they have a diagram in the firing order section
that shows the coil pack upside down. Also, in the ignition cable section
they say "A grooved tray routes the cables from the coil to each cylinder.
The cables for the even number cylinders run along the bottom of the tray.
Cables for the odd number cylinders run along the top of the tray." Their
firing order diagram shows the even cylinders on the driver side of the
engine, and the odd cylinders on the passenger side. If that is the case
their statement about the grooved tray is backwards. The cables for the odd
cylinders run along the bottom of the tray, and the cables for the even
cylinders run along the top of the tray.

 

Honestly I can't remember, but I think I did e-mail them. I may have
asked for a refund. In any case, anyone who throws together a product
as crappy as that was already knows how crappy it is. Half the sections
weren't even there - i.e., IIRC, there was no cooling system section,
and several other major sections were devoid of any information - and it
was obvious it wasn't just an oversite - they just never pulled the
info. together. It wasn't like they would say to themselves "Oh look -
we totally forgot to include a section on the cooling system - how silly
of us - good thing this guy told us or we'd never have known". They knew.

Bill Putney
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adddress with the letter 'x')