Why no heat in 93 Concorde?

Discussion in 'Concorde' started by Mopar, Jan 21, 2006.

  1. Mopar

    Mopar Guest

    For some odd reason, I get no more hot air. I reset the automatic climate
    control several times but that didn't help. The coolant is getting hot and
    the rubber hoses that are connected to the fire wall are hot. The only
    thing I can figure must be some sort of a valve that cuts the coolant on/off
    but I don't know its location. Anybody? Thanks.
     
    Mopar, Jan 21, 2006
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  2. Mopar

    maxpower Guest

    If it has the ATC system you need to have it calibrated with the scan tool,
    take it to the dealer and just ask to has it recalibrated

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Jan 21, 2006
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  3. Mopar

    Mopar Guest

    You don't need a scan tool to reset the system. As the poster mentioned, he
    recalibrated the ATC. Not being a "tech" as you are, he asked for advice in
    his post where is the physical valve that cuts off the coolant from entering
    the heater core. I am guessing you don't know because otherwise, how could
    you have posted such a clueless post? Right? Here is a rule of thumb: If
    you don't know it, don't post it. OK, Mr. Tech?
     
    Mopar, Jan 21, 2006
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  4. If the pipes to and from the heater core that are connected to the firewall
    are
    getting hot, then that means there's water flow. And if there's water flow
    then
    obviously the coolant cut off valve is OPEN, doofus!

    While I don't know the system and cannot offer advice other than the obvious
    of he needs to get himself a factory service manual and follow the
    troubleshooting
    steps, I will say that since his problem is that he is not getting any more
    hot air,
    he obviously came to the right place for some more!

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jan 22, 2006
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  5. Mopar

    maxpower Guest

    Ok Mr Mopar let me spell it out for you ok. You do need a scan tool to
    calibrate the system because there is no water valve, there are no vacuum
    hoses it is all controlled by electric motors and doors.
    There is no way to reset the system by disconnecting the battery. It has to
    be done with a scan tool. As you say" I am guessing you don't know because
    otherwise, how could
    you have posted such a clueless post? Right? Here is a rule of thumb: If
    you don't know it, don't post it. OK, Mr. Tech?"............ You should try
    taking your own advise Mr Mopar.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Jan 22, 2006
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  6. Mopar

    Karl U. Guest

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    Then why bother posting if you have nothing to offer?
     
    Karl U., Jan 22, 2006
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  7. Mopar

    maxpower Guest


    Ted Pass this on to doofus

    Ok Mr. Mopar let me spell it out for you ok. You do need a scan tool to
    calibrate the system because there is no water valve, there are no vacuum
    hoses it is all controlled by electric motors and doors.
    There is no way to reset the system by disconnecting the battery. It has to
    be done with a scan tool. As you say" I am guessing you don't know because
    otherwise, how could
    you have posted such a clueless post? Right? Here is a rule of thumb: If
    you don't know it, don't post it. OK, Mr. Tech?"............ You should try
    taking your own advise Mr. Mopar.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Jan 22, 2006
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  8. Mopar

    Steve Guest

    maxpower wrote:


    All true...

    Again true...
    And that's where you make your bloomer. According to the
    Chrysler-printed factory service manual for my '93, holding down a
    combination of keys on the ATC control head will put it into a
    self-calibration cycle that will sense all the blend door travel limits
    and re-set the parameters in the firmware. No scan-tool needed.

    The fact that this didn't work suggests that perhaps a blend-door servo
    is not operating correctly. A scan-tool might be able to detect this.
     
    Steve, Jan 23, 2006
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  9. Mopar

    maxpower Guest

    Yes Steve you are correct, there are 2 ways to calibrate using the DRB and
    the holding the floor/mix and defrost button at the same time. It will give
    you a code but will not give you the input and out put readings if there is
    a problem

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Jan 23, 2006
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  10. Mopar

    Mopar Guest

    Both of you are right. But, if something is malfunctioning with the blend
    door, you'll get a code 23 from the ATC which means that the automatic
    temperature control valve in the blend door has a feedback failure and that
    means that either the door is stuck because the stepper motor is not working
    or, maybe something is disconnected or broken and therefore the logic for
    the code 23.

    That being said, it would be great help for me and I would greatly
    appreciate if either of you told me how can I get to that blend door to look
    at it. Who knows, maybe I can fix it. My wife called the dealer this morning
    and asked for an estimate for fixing a code 23 in the blend door. They told
    her to bring the car in so they can hook it up on the computer for a cost of
    $90. I told my wife to tell them not to hold their breath.
     
    Mopar, Jan 23, 2006
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  11. Mopar

    maxpower Guest

    This is funny now you want help?? "I am guessing you don't know
    because otherwise, how could
    you have posted such a clueless post? Right? Here is a rule of thumb: If
    you don't know it, don't post it. OK, Mr. Tech?"

    Now I will tell you, dont hold your breath for my help



    Who knows, maybe I can fix it. My wife called the dealer this morning
     
    maxpower, Jan 23, 2006
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  12. Mopar

    Steve Guest

    Mopar wrote:

    Sorry, I can't help you on that one. I've (thankfully) never had to go
    further into the HVAC on my wife's 93 than replacing the fan speed
    control amplifier.
     
    Steve, Jan 24, 2006
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  13. Mopar

    Shady Guest

    The part you are looking for is about 6" in from the ATC and 3" left. You'll
    see
    two obvious things: an arm hooked to the blend door (the blend door is
    hidden
    in the heater housing, and a wire harness connected to the motor itself.
    Make sure the wire harness is connected and if it is, make sure the hinge
    didn't drop out of the blend door. If everything is fine, remove the stepper
    and have someone check it for proper rotation.
     
    Shady, Jan 24, 2006
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  14. Mopar

    Joe Guest

    I will say this - the blend actuator is pretty cheap considering what all it
    is. It's like $65 across the counter. If you had a mechanic friend you could
    probably get it cheaper.

    I paid that much at teh Chrysler dealer for a ~hunk of rubber~. Not kidding.
    Wasn't even a very big hunk.
     
    Joe, Jan 25, 2006
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