Why is the 300 so heavy?

That's all I'll publicly admit to!



--Geoff

 

How do you define an American car these days?. I define nationality by
where the bulk of the design is done and by the style of car, the full
size sedan like the 300 or the Buick LeSabre is what you think of when
you say American car. If you define it by ownership then Jaguar and Sabb
are American cars, while Chrysler is German. If you define it by where it
is manufacured then Toyota is an American car (built in Tennesee) and
Chrysler is a Canadian car (built in Windsor, ON) and the Crown Vic is
Mexican.

 

General Schvantzkoph wrote:
It handles better on dry pavement but chances are it's rear

Not to more than half the population!!!

 

Then they are IDIOTS.

I've driven a Magnum, and visibility is superb. The windows are
smallish, but its blatantly obvious after 10 seconds in the car that
they did a lot of work to put the windows EXACTLY in the right places.
That's much more important than putting a huge greenhouse on a car. Ever
checked out the visibility in an AMC Pacer? Sheesh.

 

A flat-out false statement.

 

Or rear wheel drive. Getting away from crappy, understeering,
front-drive handling is a BIG step in the right direction.

 

No, GPS in a car is absolutely worthless.

 

Not really. Its a 2nd-gen LH car trait. Having driven 1st-gen LH cars,
2nd-gen LH cars, and the Magnum, I'd give the 2nd-gen LH by FAR the
worst rear-visibility rating. The Magnum and 1st-gen are pretty close-
the Magnum has the advantage that its easier to tell exactly where
outside objects are in relation to the rear bumper when looking through
the rear window (can't see the trunk lip out the rear window of the 1st
gen LH, but the rear window IS virtually the bumper on the Magnum), and
the 1st-gen LH has better visibility when you turn your head and look
out the rear-door windows to the side.

 

No, you are both wrong.


Matt

 

This reminds me of the mid 70's Torinos (Starsky & Hutch) - real high
ass-end - I never had one, but 3 out of 5 of them had a dent within a
foot of center of the rear bumper where someone back it into a pole or
tree.

Bill Putney
(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with "x")

 

| Steve wrote:
|
| > General Schvantzkoph wrote:
| >
| >>
| >> Being able to accelerate for 0-60 is absolutely worthless,
| >
| >
| > No, GPS in a car is absolutely worthless.
|
| No, you are both wrong.
|
|
| Matt
|

Actually, I think they're both right.

 

| On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:39:07 -0400, kokomoNOSPAMkid wrote:
|
|
| How do you define an American car these days?. I define nationality by
| where the bulk of the design is done and by the style of car, the full
| size sedan like the 300 or the Buick LeSabre is what you think of when
| you say American car. If you define it by ownership then Jaguar and Sabb
| are American cars, while Chrysler is German. If you define it by where it
| is manufacured then Toyota is an American car (built in Tennesee) and
| Chrysler is a Canadian car (built in Windsor, ON) and the Crown Vic is
| Mexican.

Where the headquarters/corporate offices are located and the country where the
majority of the corporate taxes are paid. Or, you can go with which country
issues the stock.

 

|
| | >
| > Only 80MPH?
| >
| >
| That's all I'll publicly admit to!
|
|
|
| --Geoff
|
|

Understood. ;-)

 

The GPS would be nice if the speedometer is broken.

 

It is American in that it is assembled in Canada, has a Mexican engine,
and the (German designed) transmission and a majority of the rest of the
parts are from the US. The more jingoistic, though, would consider a
"made in USA with US made drive train parts" Taurus or Sedan de Ville to
be much more American.

 

Not in the northeast (I'm in Pittsburgh). The front wheel drive helps
greatly in poor traction conditions. I don't want to pay extra for AWD
and my FWD will beat your RWD with traction control (my Concorde also
has Traction Control0. I will be looking at the Taurus replacement next
time I buy a car.

 

A car is designated as "American" if the a certain percentage of the
content of the vehicle is American - I'm not sure what that percentage
is. For example, the Honda Accord built in Ohio is an American car
because the majority of the content of the car is American (labor is
included in the calculation). The 300C, being built in North America
of mostly American parts is as American as it's gonna get.

 

.............but first you have to like a Taurus or a Sedan de Ville or Ford or
GM. Nevah happen, GI!

 

If you have a RWD car with proper winter tires and you don't have
enough traction, you might want to consider a dogsled. On Dunlop
Winter Sports, my 330i has far more traction than any no-season-tire
FWDer I've driven. You can bet I'll put winter tires on the SRT-4 as
well.

If you use tires which aren't designed for the job, FWD/RWD is
academic. Your car will still not brake or handle safely on snow.

 

Have you ever actually DRIVEN a rear-drive car? I find that most people
who heap praise on FWD in the snow either have never actually driven a
rear-drive vehicle, or base their rear-drive assessment on a pickup
truck or a memory of a 1975 Chevy Nova with bias ply tires.