What's the best car wax

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by General Schvantzkoph, Aug 6, 2005.

  1. Been using Meguiar's for the sole reason that Costco sells it. Can't say
    that I'm happy, doesn't produce a very good shine and it doesn't seem to
    last. What is the best car wax that's easy to apply (I'm not interested in
    something that's requires multiple steps).

    Thanks,
     
    General Schvantzkoph, Aug 6, 2005
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    TomKan Guest

    I like Nu-Finish. The once a year polish.*
    I like it because I had a black Nissan truck, now a "candy apple" PT
    Cruiser.
    I could do the whole truck in an hour, and the black looked black, no
    distortion in the color like an oil slick was on it. IMO, it was the
    easiest to apply with the best results.
    *The directions said that for best results, apply a second application.
    Uh, excuse me, if I would do this, wouldn't it be the twice a year
    polish??
     
    TomKan, Aug 7, 2005
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  3. Hmmm, good point. I remember about 15 years ago Consumer Reports
    evaluated the car finishes and in that old report said Nu-Finish was
    #1, the best.

    I bought some, seemed pretty good. Now I'll have to duck since using
    the dreaded words, CR, brings out a whole mess of angry posts!
     
    treeline12345, Aug 7, 2005
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    But it hasn't been the best since that test long ago...

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Aug 7, 2005
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  5. Neither have my car finishes, alas. I have the famous metallic
    delamination to be concerned about. So far so good with attacking it
    with touch-up paint. Need to get some rust bonder. You know, that stuff
    you put on rust and it makes it into something else that supposedly
    won't further rust? Saw a little on a door's edge this week.
     
    treeline12345, Aug 7, 2005
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  6. I prefer Zymol, got it at my local Costco.
     
    Peter A. Stavrakoglou, Aug 7, 2005
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    NJ Vike Guest

    Mothers is good.
     
    NJ Vike, Aug 7, 2005
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    TomKan Guest

    I've "mothered" quite a few waxes when I've worked my @$$ off applying,
    removing and seeing the results on a black finish!
     
    TomKan, Aug 7, 2005
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  9. Any wax requires 2 steps, and application step and a buff step. There is
    no other way to do it that will actually leave a layer of anything on the
    finish
    that is worth a shit.

    You really need to understand the purpose of wax. Wax is like putting
    sunscreen on your skin. Wax is what protects the clear coat from
    ultraviolet.
    It is supposed to disintegrate over time. If you don't have a layer of wax
    on
    the finish, then the clear coat disintegrates over time instead. And this
    is
    true of the most expensive car paint on the market, even the ones like
    Sikkens
    that cost hundreds of bucks a gallon and claim that you never need to wax.

    There's basically 2 kinds of "car wax" out there. There's regular standard
    wax wax,
    aka turtle wax and all that. Then there's synthetic wax, aka Nu-Finish and
    several
    other products on the market, which really isn't wax at all, it's a polymer
    sealer

    I've tried many different ones of these products and what I have found is
    that
    all of them take the same amount of time and work to apply then buff off.
    The
    difference seems to be that the polymers go on thinner than the waxes, and
    last longer.

    The shine really seems to be dependent on how good the clear coat is. If
    the
    clear coat is really damaged badly, then unless you power-buff it with
    polish
    before the wax, it isn't going to have that shiny wet look no matter what
    you put
    on it. If the clear coat is just slightly weathered, then wax wax seems to
    fill in the low
    spots better and leave a better shine than the synthetic waxes.

    However I have to warn you, UNLESS you do "something that requires
    multiple steps" AKA a separate WASH, then your going to wreck your
    finish. Waxing is about 1/3 of the work that you need to do. The rest of
    it is proper cleaning. If you try to use a "cleaner wax" you are just going
    to
    put swirl marks into the finish which will drive you crazy if you have a
    dark
    car (espically a black one)

    You absolutely must spend a lot of effort in the wash. It really doesen't
    matter
    much what kind of soap you use, all the wash soap does is dissolve grease
    and modify the surface tension of water so that the water sticks to dirt, so
    you
    can wipe the dirt away with a wash cloth or mitt. What matters the most I
    have
    found is that you must endeavor to keep the wash water clean, keep the wash
    cloth
    clean, and use a very deep and absorbent nap on the wash cloth. And you
    should
    not wipe a wash cloth across a car finish unless you have wet down the
    finish, and
    the cloth is so saturated with water that as you wipe it it is giving up
    water to the finish.
    And once you have wiped away the dirt you must dry properly, which means
    a damp towl first followed by a dry towl, and both with deep naps that
    pick up dirt. And you must keep rotating the towels so the surface is
    fresh.

    Unless the surface, even low down, is clean enough to lick with your tongue,
    when you go to wax it you will just scratch the hell out of the finish. And
    anybody
    that tells you different or sells a product that claims differently is a
    liar.

    I realise this sounds like a lot of work, and it is, but unless you do it,
    you will
    get swirl marks. If your the lazy type that cannot or will not spend an
    afternoon
    doing this, your better off leaving the dirt on the car and paying someone
    else to wash
    it properly. Otherwise, don't even waste your time doing a half-assed job
    washing
    and waxing, just use car washes and ignore the swirl marks.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 8, 2005
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    NJ Vike Guest

    Yes, it is work but the results were good. I can even say that about
    Meguiars.

    I wash and wax often (black car :-(

    --
    "Now Phoebe Snow direct can go
    from thirty-third to Buffalo.
    From Broadway bright the tubes run right
    Into the Road of Anthracite"
    Erie - Lackawanna
     
    NJ Vike, Aug 8, 2005
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    Midwest Div Guest

    I agree with NuFinish. One tip is don't put this stuff on heavy, less is
    more and a light film is much easier to remove.

    Don't expect it to last a full year however. It will outlast all other
    regular waxes however.

    But if your reallllly lazy (like me,) how about a five-year car wax? Ok,
    it's not really wax, it's PTFE and it will last fairly well for about three
    years. http://www.5starshine.com/ Gloss isn't as high in my opinion, but
    good enough for everyday driving,.
     
    Midwest Div, Aug 8, 2005
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    Guest Guest

    Turtle wash and wax. I've used it for years, ever since my first clear
    coat car finish in '86. I found waxing and polishing a clear coat
    finish scratches it.
    I don't shami it after washing, usually just let it dry. For a really
    good job I simply towel it off very lightly.
    One does need to avoid getting the wash & wax on the windows.
     
    Guest, Aug 12, 2005
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