walmart house oil?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Sean&Heather, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. Sean&Heather

    Sean&Heather Guest

    hello to all .
    does anyone know who makes it ? i heard castrol does.
    also i can rember helping grandpa as a kid and all he did was change the
    filter and add a quart. lol my how times have changed.waite does anyone
    still do this ? SKU
     
    Sean&Heather, Mar 15, 2006
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  2. I consider Castrol to be a good lubricant, but there's no telling what
    crap they'd manufacture for Wal-Mart (or anybody else) if the Castrol
    name's not going to be on it.

    My cars doen't burn enough oil that there'd be room to add a quart.

    Perce
     
    Percival P. Cassidy, Mar 15, 2006
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  3. It's made in China, out of the fat rendered off political prisoners and
    6-year-old factory workers.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Mar 15, 2006
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  4. Sean&Heather

    TNKEV Guest

    If there were a Wal-mart restaurant I wouldn't drink the "house" wine,
    so I wouldn't use the "house" oil in my car either!


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  5. Sean&Heather

    Steve Guest

    So you'd just leave out the quart that is inside the old filter when you
    take it off and throw it away, or did you miss the fact that this is the
    reason for adding the quart?

    FWIW, I suspect more people are doing this today than a few years ago
    because more people are running extended oil change intervals. It
    doesn't hurt to change the filter and add a quart halfway through an
    extended oil change interval with synthetic oils (order of 9000 mile
    drain intervals) just to get a new filter in there, plus a dose of fresh
    oil and additives to boot. But that's assuming you do a COMPLETE oil and
    filter change at the end of the interval.
     
    Steve, Mar 15, 2006
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  6. Sean&Heather

    Dipstick Guest

    Steve wrote

    <So you'd just leave out the quart that is inside the old filter when
    you
    <take it off and throw it away, or did you miss the fact that this is
    the
    <reason for adding the quart?

    I haven't seen a filter in several years that would hold a quart. Most
    are closer to a cup these days. A quart used to be "normal," though.

    <FWIW, I suspect more people are doing this today than a few years ago
    <because more people are running extended oil change intervals. It
    <doesn't hurt to change the filter and add a quart halfway through an
    <extended oil change interval with synthetic oils (order of 9000 mile
    <drain intervals) just to get a new filter in there, plus a dose of
    fresh
    <oil and additives to boot.

    I suspect you are right. Most cars/drivers today, though, still fall
    in the "severe use" or whatever similar category the manufacturers use.
    They should not be using the "extended" intervals suggested by the
    owner's manuals and car salespeople. Most probably do, though.

    As for Wal-Mart, they have nothing that you can't buy somewhere else. I
    refuse to shop there.
     
    Dipstick, Mar 15, 2006
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  7. Sean&Heather

    Steve Guest


    They still sell the AC PF2 / Motorcraft FL-1A / Wix 1515 / Purolator
    L3001 size (quart) filter. AND it fits on a lot of engines that come
    equipped with those rinky-dink teacup size filters too, and a lot of
    people (including me) use it on every vehicle they own.
    People who do oil analyses are finding that name brand(*) synthetic (and
    group-III base non-synthetic) oil is barely even showing any degradation
    at 9k miles, even in extremely severe use. The old "3000 mile" oil
    change is ridiculous with high quality modern oils. There's a lot of
    good information that suggests that some engine/oil combinations could
    easily run 20,000 miles between changes. You won't catch me going past
    about 9000, though, which I've been doing for a long time. One engine
    with 400k miles and two others with over 250k say it works just fine.


    * obviously this disqualifies "house brand" oils. Not because they
    necessarily aren't excellent today, but because tomorrow you won't have
    a clue who's making it when the current contract expires.
     
    Steve, Mar 16, 2006
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  8. Sean&Heather

    Dipstick Guest

    Steve wrote
    <They still sell the AC PF2 / Motorcraft FL-1A / Wix 1515 / Purolator
    <L3001 size (quart) filter. AND it fits on a lot of engines that come
    <equipped with those rinky-dink teacup size filters too, and a lot of
    <people (including me) use it on every vehicle they own.

    Yes, they do. The point was that most factory filters don't hold a
    quart anymore. Most owners probably don't use the quart size filter
    even if they could (me included). Many surely do. Regardless of
    capacity, you are correct that changing the filter 'only' requires one
    to replace the lost oil.

    <People who do oil analyses are finding that name brand(*) synthetic
    (and
    <group-III base non-synthetic) oil is barely even showing any
    degradation
    <at 9k miles, even in extremely severe use. The old "3000 mile" oil
    <change is ridiculous with high quality modern oils. There's a lot of
    <good information that suggests that some engine/oil combinations could

    <easily run 20,000 miles between changes. You won't catch me going
    past
    <about 9000, though, which I've been doing for a long time. One engine
    <with 400k miles and two others with over 250k say it works just fine.

    Oil analysis is practiced regularly at my employer...we don't change
    oil there unless analysis says it's time. There's no doubt that good
    quality oils will go much farther than 3000 today under most any
    circumstances. One guy who works for me tells of a GM lubrication
    school he attended in the late 60's (as a GM employee) that debunked
    the 3000 mile theory. They espoused 9000-12000 for most users. He
    claims that the oil companies kept GM from making that public
    knowledge. I believe the first parts of that, but not sure about the
    last :). I personally use the rediculous 3000 mile rule for several
    reasons....it's easy to remember, it can't hurt, I'm old and used to
    it, my kids remember it and bring their cars by, and I have a million
    miles of positive experience. Priceless, to me, even if it does cost an
    extra hundred bucks a year. Couldn't pay me to use the "house brand"
    stuff tho, even if it's exactly the same.
     
    Dipstick, Mar 16, 2006
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  9. Sean&Heather

    Guest Guest

    I use that rule also for my 1940 Chrysler Royal and my 2005 PT Cruiser
    Convertible!
     
    Guest, Mar 16, 2006
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  10. Sean&Heather

    Ken Pisichko Guest

    Documentation??? s.v.p. ;-)
     
    Ken Pisichko, Mar 16, 2006
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  11. Sean&Heather

    Ken Pisichko Guest

    What is your point? There is NO restaurant licensed at any USA Wal-Mart
    :) Your comment makes absolutely no sense. Correct my impression of your
    statement - IF you can. Are you saying you don't change any oil in your
    "non-existant" vehicle?
     
    Ken Pisichko, Mar 16, 2006
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  12. Sean&Heather

    Doug Guest

    Humm, I gues you don't understand the original poster's use of
    allegory?

    In any event, Walmart does have lunch counter/restaurants in all the
    stores around me, but then that's hardly the point.

    Doug
     
    Doug, Mar 16, 2006
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  13. Sean&Heather

    Bill Putney Guest

    Reminds me of the comedian I heard recently that said that 7-11's are
    now selling fine wines, and he was having trouble deciding whether he
    should get a red or a white to go with his burrito.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Mar 16, 2006
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  14. Sean&Heather

    Richard Guest

    It does not matter who "makes it." It is what is in it that counts. Once a
    large home improvement chain in NYS sold a house brand they got from Mobil.
    It was base oil, but marked as SE 10W-40. It contained no viscosity
    improvers, pour or anti-friction additives. Even with the truth disclosed it
    took some effort to get them to pull the cans and not merely ship them out
    of state, but who knows, I'm sure Mobil did not want that crap back.

    Richard.
     
    Richard, Mar 16, 2006
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  15. Sean&Heather

    hartless Guest

    Then that is Mobil's fault, not the home improvement store! The oil supplier
    is responsible for the contents and labeling, so this scenario doesn't
    happen! Sounds like a far fetched story.
     
    hartless, Mar 16, 2006
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  16. Sean&Heather

    Steve Guest



    I think there was sarcasm used by all posters involved ;-)

    Me, I'd pull out my favorite Southern dining recommendation. "Don't
    order shrimp at the Waffle House." :D If you want oil, buy it branded
    by a company that MAKES oil.
     
    Steve, Mar 16, 2006
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  17. Sean&Heather

    Sean&Heather Guest

    wow
    getting a answer is like getting your teeth pulled by a bunch of clowns!!!
    thanks!! just asking question, not asking for a toung lashing
     
    Sean&Heather, Mar 16, 2006
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  18. Yeah...wow, eh?
    Giving "a" answer is all in a day's work, ma'am.
    You're welcome.
    And omitting singular indefinite articles...
    Not asking for a *which*, now?

    What are you, eight? Nine?
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Mar 16, 2006
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  19. But it doesen't cost an extra hundred bucks a year. The US average is
    14,000
    miles per driver per car per yer. Going from 9000 to 3000 mile means maybe
    4 oil changes a year vs 2 oil changes per year. That is only 2 extra
    changes per
    year. Are you really paying $50 per oil change? I see them advertised for
    $19.95 all the time. I do my own and I often buy name brand oil on sale for
    $1 a quart. A good filter is about $6 so I figure at most $10-12 per
    change.

    Most cars burn a little oil, very few burn a quart in 3000 miles though.
    And even
    if they do, so what? Engines are fine running a quart low, that's only to
    the bottom
    of the hash marks on the dipstick. But if you wait 9000 you may save a few
    bucks
    on oil but lose a lot of money on the engine, because the oil gets too low.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Mar 17, 2006
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  20. Sean&Heather

    Caravan Guy Guest

    If I recall, Ashland Oil bottles the Wally World Motor oil.
     
    Caravan Guy, Mar 17, 2006
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