Unsatisfied Dodge Neon owner

| >OTOH, if it dies at 55K, they owe you a new engine. Dodge
| >would have long gone past the warranty period, btw.
| >
|
| So the 7 year / 70,000 mile waranty won't cover this ? Why not ?
|

The Chrysler warranty _will_ cover a engine with 55K miles on it, as long as
it's within 7 years.

 

It can be a challenge. There are what are known as "turn signal intensity
multipliers" in the Federal (and international) standard for turn signals,
such that the minimum allowable intensity for a turn signal rises as the
turn signal is mounted closer to the low beam headlamps. There's obviously
some debate over whether the multipliers are adequate or sufficient to
address this issue.

DS

 

Only if they post it in a Civic Usenet group. Of course, the guy won't see
it
because he's looking for Civic info in a Chrysler newsgroup. (He probably
is
looking for Chrysler info in the Civic newsgroups)

Ted

 

I'd like to know that also. On my '66, '69, and '73 cars the turn
signals are as much as 8-10 inches (maybe even a foot) below the
headlamps. VERY easy to see. I thought it was bad enough that they were
putting turn signals directly above and beside headlamps I still
remember the circa 1978 LeBaron as being one of the first to put turn
signals directly above headlamps), but now they're integrating them
INSIDE the periphery of the headlamp reflector. That's just plain stupid!

The latest Neon sure LOOKS better (especially from the back) than the
first two versions, but the headlamps/turn signals don't contribute
anything to the improvement and are a nuisance.

 

too bad for you!1 the new neon's are some of the most reliable cars chrysler ever built
true the old body style was a klunker! the new one's are not and this includes the now non existent head
gasket issue we see few neons with common warranty issues in fact we are making cracks about being
maytag repair guys while we work on gms instead

 

The car purchase was part of consolidation loan. Although the car
portion would be paid for, it's still part of the cosolidation. I
guess my point is, I can't sell it until May 2005.

Yes, looks like I made a bad choice.
My wife has a 1992 Shadow and it's been a solid car, so we assumed the
predicessor would also be a solid choice.

Mike

 

Glad the post helped.

Mike

 

For me personally, one post wouldn't stop me from buying a car, but it
would start me to dig a little deeper into the problem.
If my post stopped one guy from buying an older Neon, then hurrah.
Wish I had read a post about it 2.5 years ago.

Mike

 

if they are so reliable why does consumer reports not recomend it.
show me a road test were they compare all in its class and the neon
wins...you wont...period.

 

Because Condemner Distorts isn't worthy to be used as toilet paper, let
alone a basis for deciding a car purchase?

..
Actually, the SRT-4 has done just that.

 

Yea, thanks mike.

 

Neon has three generations. The SRT-4 is a Neon, and it's not a 2nd gen. QED.

-C

 

Er...no. I'll ignore your utterly incorrect use of QED and just focus on
your factual error: The SRT-4 is a 2nd-generation Neon with a different
configuration/calibration of the same powertrain as in every other
2nd-generation Neon, upgraded variants of the same brake and suspension
configuration as in every other 2nd-generation Neon, and an appearance
package.

DS

 

Case in point - I wrote a letter to them explaining how their
ratings in the rear(charts of bubbles) for the Grand Cherokee
since 2000 are showing suddenly lots of good results - that
is - all excellent and above average - not one white, half-black,
or full black circle, and yet at the bottom are given a full black
circle for quality as well as a full black circle in reliability
in their reviews.

Go check it out for yourself - this last year's auto buying issue.
Predicted reliability - worst possible.

Flip back to the data charts.
Actual reported reliability by members for the last two years -
very good and excellent in individual areas. Full black circle
at the bottom. Seems as if they can't add up correctly. How
do you get terrible out of nothing but good and excellent?

Their response was a bunch of double-talk about how the data
in the charts was accurate but did not accurately reflect the
reliability. (?) Trust me - it was just as confusing to me
as it sounds to you.

They just hate some cars. Period. They never saw a Jeep that
they liked, for instance. Same with Dodge and most of GM.

 

Actually, the SRT-4 is a second gen Neon. How people can mistake the
different front and rear clips for a whole new car (the generally
accepted meaning of 'generation' AFAIK) is beyond me.

And Dodge doesn't call it a Neon, though that's a different bitch.

I've got a 95 highline coupe (Plymouth variety; though only the VIN
and hood badge betray the difference) with 143,000 miles on it and I'm
quite confident it'll hit 200k as long as some knucklehead doesn't
punt me in the grass or something. Resale stinks so it would take
fairly little to total it in the ins. co. opinion.

It's been a very good car though, especially considering the cost.
I've had it since new, and have had the ubiquitous head gasket, the
rear main seal, O2 sensor, fuel pump, beyond that we get into the
realm of real piddly things like bulbs.

'Course now the AC is going soft, but that's not unusual at this stage
of the game with these cars either.

It's been good to me. Of course I've also been pretty good to it,
that certainly helps. People tend to bitch about economy cars not
lasting but then turn around and say 'it's only an economy car' and
abuse it, then sell it to some guy for cheap, who then bitches about
his 7 year old car with (in all likelyhood) a history unknown to him
starting to pop parts.

Heh. Haven't been around here in a bit; defending the Neon is a good
way to pop back in They sure ain't perfect; I've got a short list
of 'if only's' about it, but it's definitely done a golden job of
fufilling its mission in my case.

Rich

 

No, Technically there was no major redesign for the Neon. It is STILL on
its 'second' Generation iteration. Styling changes like 'head lamps' do
not designate a 'generation' change.

-Matt

 

check out the Camry newsgroup and read the posts about what crap the
Camry is.