Unleaded petrol mixed with Diesel in a Chrysler 2.5CRD

From most car dealers that just took them in as a tradein.

Define "in the future". My gf commuted 140 miles a day, for 4 months, in
a 1986 Nissan Sunny Pulsar saloon which cost £50.

Richard

 

Hmmm. If you ran your PC on 415V I think it would have been considered
"fit for purpose" until you fried it. The villains, if there are any
apart from the user, are the fuel companies who don't have a standard
colour-coding for fuel nozzles.

 

Your mess now, though, isn't it? That's the way these things work...

I think the comment was about your use of the term "petrol tank".

 

I haven't read those links but it is the lubricity that is important not the
viscosity, which varies with temperature.
Any idea why BMW want the actual fuel tank changed other than to sell high
value parts?

Huw

 

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As far as the Focus goes I can't disagree.

 

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There is, but what's that to do with it?

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I'm afraid it is.

Can't argue with that.

Mind you, in our case there isn't enough warranty volume for it to be an
issue.

No, most manufacturers work on a two day stock delivery, you only get
penalised if you want it next day. In our case we can order stock for
next day up to 3pm.

We only get penalised if we order too much after the cut off.

Not here, they've almost eliminated the need for it.

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Do you now. What would you use then?

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Absolutely. Can you blame us though?

Obviously not dealing with retail in the same way then?

 

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Indeed. However, our experience of damage to the CTDI engine is somewhat
limited so far, so I'll pass on opinion there. The AA reckon *any*
petrol can cause damage.

Fit for purpose cannot allow for negligence, and that's basically what
it is.

FWIW, I don't think Honda would be too unhappy if diesel cars were never
sold again, they didn't really want to enter the market in the first
place.

Indeed, the old diesel systems, with a little bit of extra development,
could perhaps be almost as efficient as the direct injections are.

 

Go and check the links I posted elsewhere, there are meetings about this
happening as we argue.

 

I am not going to argue with that as AFAIK there is no definitive amount
although there might be a figure that gives an absolute guarantee that no
damage will be done. It is easy to state this figure as zero petrol to be
safe. I won't put a figure on it myself.
Adding oil to the mix is certain to mitigate the effect and also to use the
car intensively so that the mix does not remain in static contact with the
pump innards for too long. The ultimate of course would be to empty the tank
and to remove and replace all parts in contact with the mix and this is the
rather ridiculous overkill advocated by some for all incidents it seems.
Carry on if that makes you happy and allows sounder sleep.

Huw

 

You could make them out of enviromentally friendly fibre....

 

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Don't they? I've not seen anything but Green for UL, Red for LRP and
Black for diesel. Those annoying adverts can be distracting though.

 

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Indian hemp?

 

I don't think the customer considers the volume, but I accept that you have
few serious warranty claims.

In my case I can order up to 6pm for next day 8am for most of the year but
with a 5pm order deadline at other times. Service orders are similar to what
you describe but stock orders are collated once a week for delivery within
one week but if they are out of manufacturers stock these will take a lower
priority while they have the highest discount rate.

Since you are asking for hypothetical times for hypothetical jobs then I
could well slant the figures in any way I liked but I won't.

Given that you probably don't know your customers then no.

Oh yes. Retail but with a rather superior service.

Huw

 

It was disaster alley for Ford. The Sierra was a dubious looker, the
Scorpio and Escort were complete disasters. After that trio they really
had to get their act sorted.

 

My use of the words 'within reason' was intended to stop people from
coming up with examples of gross misuse.

It would seem that something more than just standard colour-coding of
nozzles is needed to deal with the problem of mis-fuelling.

 

Essex Straw

 

My use of the words 'within reason' was intended to stop people from
coming up with examples of gross misuse.

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Yes it needs humans who are not in a trance or on mind bending drugs. It
needs humans who are alert and can tell the difference between green guns
and black ones and knowing how to read the big 'DIESEL' sign on their car
filler cap/flap.
Given all that, as in all walks in life, accidents happen. Not to me though
because my whole fleet is diesel and they seldom get filled at filling
stations. Aren't I a smug git.

Huw

 

Yes they do, and they should be legislated out of the equation as far as is
possible.

There is no reason why fuel tank filler holes and the relevant fuel
dispensing nozzles should not be made mechanically compatible so that the
vehicle cannot receive the wrong fuel. Further, this could eliminate fuel
spillage, which is dangerous especially to motorcyclists, and speed up the
dispensing of fuel as it could be an enclosed system. Just think "Formula 1
fuel rig"

 

Rules and regulations are the bane of most peoples lives and I am against it
on principle.

Backward compatibility is one reason. When unleaded came in it was a new
type of fuel and a new size nozzle could be adapted without cost to owners
of existing cars.
This is obviously different with diesels where there is a large legacy
fleet.






Further, this could eliminate fuel

I don't think adding cost to fuelling cars is really on unless absolutely
needed. In any case a large number of cars and all kinds of other equipment
fill diesel using gravity from above ground tanks with no complications.

Huw

 

Do you really think someone stupid enough to put the wrong fuel in a car
could operate anything that resembled an F1 rig?

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Ahh, good point. Do it.