Unleaded petrol mixed with Diesel in a Chrysler 2.5CRD

Chains are better than belts (especially with an interference engine -
my Chrysler 2.7 has chains), but the ultimate would be gears. People
claim that it would not be practical to use gears on an OHC engine
(b.s.), and that there would be a weight and noise penalty. I think the
tradeoffs of not having to spend hundreds of $$ every 100k miles would
be worth it. Oh - I know - we have stupidly put a premium of close to
infinity on weight and noise, though I am convinced that the noise issue
(even if it is a real factor - which is questionable) could be solved
with a little R&D by the industry. Basically, I think we have very
screwed up priorities.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

 

That's the wording they chose, or are you putting words in their mouths?

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

 

On modern high pressure diesels it takes much less than 40% to completely balls
up the injection system.

 

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Yes, in the US they might do, but that is very often not the case in the
rest of the world.

 

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You might find this interesting:

http://www.aatrust.com/files/reports/01022004_misfuelling.pdf

http://www.aatrust.com/files/reports/01122004_misfuelling_statistics.pdf

It basically says that *any* petrol in the system can start to cause
damage as the viscosity of the fuel is critical.

To open another can of worms there is a similar argument running
regarding bio-fuels too. ;-)

 

And a lot easier to park than a Chrysler Grand Voyager too

Reversing camera notwithstanding !

 

Not entirely. I should have said large amounts over a short period.

 

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Yes, that's what I said elsewhere.

 

In view of your position in the motor trade, I cannot expect you to say
what your experience and common sense suggests that ratio might be.

It would seem to be about time that the manufacturers consider how many
people are being put off from buying diesels by the tales of woe that
spread far and wide from every mis-fuelling incident - and how close
they are getting to infringing the 'fit for purpose' part of UK The Sale
of Goods Act.

I, for one, would be happy to sacrifice some engine efficiency in return
for a more robust product, that is able to cope, within reason, with the
ups and down of everyday usage. In other words, a product that is 'fit
for purpose'.

 

YES ! The OP who's WIFE made the Faux Pas

Pay attention Putney !

ITYM Got the Dizzy Wife into this mess in the first place


Anyhow, it's running sweet as a nut now, and a Chrysler mechanic just
returned my earlier call and told me I'd done the right thing

So maybe the RAC really ***ARE*** the 4th emergency service ?

 

The oil is a good idea, and it may save the day. You'll know in a few
months' time, so good luck.

 

Yes, but they frequently get it badly wrong. Hence the reason that FOrd
still has a large collection of the letters E D S L in a drawer in Detroit.

The hardly supplied what the public wanted in a Mustang from 1970-2004
either, did they?

 

That is the price at which I would anticipate it would sell with a full MOT
if I chose to sell it..

 

There are greater variations between dealers in the same town in my
experience

Not common and not efficient for a quick turn-around of vehicles. What I
want is a vehicle diagnosed, repaired and out of the door and back with the
owner in one smooth cycle.

No. Something that high value would be VOR for next morning delivery.
Are you as a dealer not penalised if you do not order a high percentage of
your parts for stock? Most manufacturers have targets for stock and service
orders as a percentage of all orders. If VOR's in particular exceed a
percentage, perhaps as low as 15% of total orders, then discounts on parts
will be lost and will cost the dealership loads of money.

I think your costed hours are weighted unrealistically to make your point.

Funny thing is, I have no problem with it and it certainly does not lead to
changing unnecessary parts. I do however acknowledge that the most
economical remedy is often impossible these days due to know-it-all [read
'know nothing'] customers wanting a full warranty on difficult repairs. In
other words, if a system is repaired and something possibly not related in
the same system fails within weeks, then the customer expects it to be
repaired again free. As we know nothing is free, certainly not parts and
labour, so it is becoming more common not to attempt a repair but to replace
a whole system. This has the double advantage that less skilled labour is
needed in car dealers because all they really need most of the time is a
'fitter' who can replace whole components with new ones which are fully
covered by manufacturers warranty.
I come from another part of a similar trade where stripping down and
repairing components and systems is still normal and common practice and
where this is often done on site, so the skills needed are in a different
league really. No, I am not a mechanic, before you ask.

Huw

 

Indeed. I can even go the other way and say that I own a few engines that
are not prone to sludge and which I double the manufacturers oil change
interval using superior oil and have done so for years. Like you I know that
one of my engines needs changing sooner than recommended.
We are not robots, we are thinking beings. Some follow instructions blindly
and some of us have the experience to modify and adapt as indicated by
experience.

Huw

 

That's what I keep telling her. I don't think she believes me.

Huw

 

The last European Ford Escort was a case in point. However it bombed so
badly that Ford burned their fingers resulting in the best range of cars
that Ford have ever made IMO.

Huw

 

The message <dmv70h$muh$>

Nonsense, you could make them external and out of nice light plastic.
It's worked successfully for tensioners for ages.

(for those who've had their irony detection circuits removed I should
point out that my tongue is firmly in my cheek)

 

That's nice. I don't own an Outback H6; I wish I did - and I might do
next year if I find a good cheap one.

Richard

 

Since I paid £40 for a car with 6 months ticket and tax, and it would
comfortably pass another MOT at a cost of £25 locally... I make that £65.

Proton

Richard