Unleaded petrol mixed with Diesel in a Chrysler 2.5CRD

My dealership, or any main dealer come to that. It's a 'royal' we.

 

....or its maintenance (i.e., timing belt replacements when 100%
maintenance-free gear-driven cams could be made to work). You've hit
the proverbial nail on the head.

Bill Putney
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VM is an Italian engine builder who once supplied Land Rover for use in the
diesel Range Rovers. I know they used to supply engines for Chrysler
products such as the Jeep Cherokee and Grand Cherokee plus the early
Voyager. The company was recently a part of Detroit Diesel but may have been
hived off even more recently.

Every cloud has a siver lining.

My wife has a new Range Rover and all she does is complain that it is too
big to park :-(

Big difference in purchase price and normal service charges too I would
think. Lexus have a bit of meat left in a deal while Chrysler are working to
very small margins I would think.

They did look like a good feature.

No problem. I hope your motor lasts forever. And your engine too.

Huw

 

Surely it's wiser to take the safe option here - especially if the

Re-read the post - there was a bit below that that quoted the OP.

 

Heaven forbid you tell some people to use their brains and go against
the manufacturer's recommendations!! I've had people argue with me
about shortening the oil change interval on the sludge-prone 2.7L
engine. "...After all, the mfgr.'s recommendation is 7500 mile
intervals - how could you possibly second guess them and be right!" Or
use a sludge preventing additive for the special case problem? "Oh my!!
That's a mortal sin!!"

Bill Putney
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I've got a small outboard 2-stroke for a dinghy. A couple of years ago I
had fuelling problems with it, which was mostly down to muck in the
fuel. I was in a bit of a rush with other things so I took it to a
repair shop. When I returned to pick it up they wanted a fucking
enormous payment - about 50% of the purchase price of the engine.They
tried to claim that the 2T oil had "turned into jelly which corroded the
carburettor and bocked the filters" and they claimed to have replaced
the carburettor and to have had to completely strip the engine to clean
out the "jelly" from all working parts.

They even had a little leaflet printed with dire warnings about this
mysterious jelly caused by an interaction between unleaded fuel and
synthetic 2T. So I took the covers off the engine, pointed out that the
carburettor was the same one that had been on when the engine was
brought into the shop and when they queried that, pointed to the
postcode stamped on it. Then I pointed to the paint dabs on the cylinder
head that showed that it had never been touched. Finally I demanded that
they show me a sample of this mysterious "jelly". Then I threatened to
get the police in to deal with a case of fraud. The bill disappeared.

That was also bollocks on their part, but I suspect to many the presence
of a printed leaflet would have made it look "official".

 

Not that far apart then are we.



Some

Assuming the parts aren't already in stock. The chances are they won't be of
course because the motor trade hardly ever stocks what they really should to
maximise their parts sales opportunities. There are exceptions I know.

Yes but you keep the fitter in chargeable work for longer when he would
possibly be sweeping the floor otherwise. £40+ an hour is a profit
opportunity in my book even if the hours are tight to the point that a
couple cannot be charged for.

"Covering our arses" sums it all up nicely.

Huw

 

Fraid so. What would you do?

 

Andy, do the manufacturers' bulletins/recommendations state the minimum
ratio of petrol to diesel at which such action is necessary? This is a
serious question, and I am not trying to catch you out or be clever, but
considering that the degree can vary between brimming an almost empty
tank with petrol and inserting a petrol nozzle in the filler, realising
the mistake and removing it immediately without pressing the trigger,
but not before a few drops of petrol have entered the tank, then surely
there is a ratio at which no action is required.

 

This does not surprise me. A lot of the trade is crooked and rely on the
ignorance of Joe Public and bluster to get away with it. I would imagine
that this would be particularly so in the leisure side where people are more
willing to spend cash than on anything work related.

Huw

 

The Turning circle is not fantastic too but hey, it is a long vehicle

Flog it and get her a Smart car, and see what she says

 

I've done it. Nissan Micra, G reg 1 litre automatic. 11 months MOT and tax.
We ran it for a year then scrapped it as the exhaust was falling apart.

 

Jings, the new rr is a titch.

 

Oh butt out!! Oh - wait - you're the op.

I had to laugh when I read: "I dumped half a litre of Diesel engine oil
into the petrol tank..." That's the kind of sloppy thinking that got
you into this mess in the first place.

Bill Putney
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Oh, I see. I wasn't necessarily referring to the OP in that case, just
to anybody that is in this situation.

 

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I suspect so, although the bulletin we have only relates to being
mis-fuelled, and does not state what ratio is OK. It is actually quite
specific that the repairs have to be carried out if the engine was
simply started.

The implications are that the components are sensitive enough to petrol
that small amounts might be harmful over a long time, they certainly
expect them to be harmful over a very short period.

 

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Makes quite a difference over a year.

For warranty repairs we cannot stock anything, all warranty parts are
ordered from a claim, and send for *that* job. This is becoming more
common now.

Besides, would you really want to have a DI pump and injectors in stock,
just in case?

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Of course it depends on your lead time.

What, no answer there? ;-)

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Indeed, I suggest you go and have a good look at liability laws, and
their implications to anybody that works in the trade. You would not
want to be on the receiving end of a liability claim.

The laws we have in place both protect us and the consumer, as well as
hinder us.

 

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Yup. Actually Honda have moved almost exclusively to chains now.

 

They ALL do. I was born and raised in Detroit, and my dad and several
relatives worked in auto industry. Detroit is VERY concerned about what
folks will buy, and give the public the cars it wants.

I personally like small, fuel efficient cars. But I have enough
friends- the majority of them, in fact, who do not LIKE small cars, and
want the biggest heaviest vehicle they can buy.

In fact, I have two friends who readily admit the reason they bought
SUVs is the intimidation factor. At least these folks are honest.

 

Hmmm - did you say the opossite fo what you meant there?

Bill Putney
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