Unleaded petrol mixed with Diesel in a Chrysler 2.5CRD

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by miruttledge, Dec 3, 2005.

  1. miruttledge

    Tim S Kemp Guest

    That was the nice thing about Volvo parts - even a full painted nose cone
    from Sweden was only three days.
     
    Tim S Kemp, Dec 4, 2005
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    Huw Guest

    You mean that you agree? This could be the start of some kind of love-in.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Dec 4, 2005
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    Duncanwood Guest


    NOw I've got beer on the keyboard. How long did it take them to find a
    tank lining that was damaged by petrol & not diesel :)
     
    Duncanwood, Dec 4, 2005
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    Huw Guest

    Well that is a bit off. Best avoid BMW then. Oops, I've recently sold a
    diesel BMW and now have what is essentially another BMW, a diesel Range
    Rover. Oh well, I can only take comfort from the fact that it will probably
    never happen to me or my wife. My daughter is another story altogether but
    when she gets to drive next year she will probably get a small diesel car,
    not for the economy but for the convenience of standardisation with one fuel
    filled from my own 7000 litre store for exclusive use of my cars and light
    commercials.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Dec 4, 2005
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    Tim S Kemp Guest

    Do them stores get checked regularly by HMCR for their veggy oil content ;)
     
    Tim S Kemp, Dec 4, 2005
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    Huw Guest

    Millions of Deutchmark spent in research and development was not wasted.
    They even went to the expense of a different material for petrol tanks to
    fit in the same space on the car. Wow.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Dec 4, 2005
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

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    It still doesn't mean I like them, but it has to be hard to make a worse
    car than the last Escorts.

    I have to admit that of all the cars we tested on our New Civic day, the
    Focus was actually the biggest worry.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Dec 4, 2005
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

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    I have no idea, although they are both different chemicals anyway,
    petrol would dissolve many things where diesel would not.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Dec 4, 2005
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

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    Jeezus, you have 85% parts stock??? that must be crippling. I would
    suspect your statement there is wrong too, nearly all main dealers have
    nothing in stock, it would be commercial suicide to do otherwise,
    especially now we have such short stock order times.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Dec 4, 2005
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    I suspect it's a self-sealing liner. As both fuels have different flow
    characteristics surely the liner would need to be designed differently
    for optimum performance.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Dec 4, 2005
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    Richard Guest

    Here in the East coast of the USA, back in the 60's, we had a number of 2
    cycle Saab's running around. Especially in the State of Conn., where most
    seemed to have been sold, gas station attendents would automatically add 2
    cycle oil into the tank after filling up the little tike with petroleum.

    When Saab switched to 4 stroke motors it was very common for station
    attendents to add the 4 stroke oil into the tank.

    It seems that whenever people are involved mistakes of this kind will
    happen. [At least that mistake would not kill the motor]. A different size
    fill port would make a great idea for diesel fueled vehicles, especially if
    this catches on in North America.

    Richard.
     
    Richard, Dec 4, 2005
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    Huw Guest

    We have over £1.75million of parts for many big names in stock including
    bearings, engine parts, steering, transmission brake etc etc. chains filters
    oils greases and many tools, welders etc which are stocked front of shop,
    supermarket style, which I suspect is more stock than some manufacturers
    keep and gives you some idea of the scale and scope of operations. We have
    just opened a third depot and the second to have a major franchise area and
    currently have five fully equipped service vans allocated to workshop staff
    who can use these for home service and repairs in and out of normal business
    hours. We also have two recovery trucks which double as new and used
    delivery trucks to collect and return vehicles if that is more convenient to
    the customer and ourselves.
    Up until now most common rail repair work [as in reconditioning etc, not
    dismantling and reassembling] has been outsourced to a specialist. Our
    Mercedes Vito is currently with Shorts, a big mistake because we mistakenly
    diagnosed a fuel system problem which turned out to be bent conrods. We
    could easily have reconditioned this engine in-house but it is now in bits
    many miles away with no-one apparently able to put it back together. It will
    probably end up with a new engine partly paid for by insurance. Present
    costings indicate that there will be a grand bill plus VAT even insurance
    adjustments. We won't be buying another Vito.

    Huw

    Huw .
     
    Huw, Dec 4, 2005
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    Peter Guest

    That is a fundamentally different point from that of a reasonable person
    making the mistake of mis-fuelling a car - a mistake that evidently is
    easily made, judging by the reports that tens of thousands of people do
    it a year.

    I think we are both coming at this from our own work backgrounds and we
    are unlikely to agree, so I will leave it there. Thank you, sincerely,
    for your time.[Snip]
     
    Peter, Dec 4, 2005
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    Huw Guest

    The Focus is an excellent car. I have not seen the new Civic yet but rated
    the old one highly apart from general road noise and the diesel engine. The
    new on is........well.........different.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Dec 4, 2005
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    Huw Guest

    It's a tank for Gawd's sake!

    Huw
     
    Huw, Dec 4, 2005
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    Huw Guest

    As it happens they *could* be inspected at any time especially as I use a
    similar quantity of red diesel for another business. I use so much derv that
    it is not realistic to think that I would dilute it, especially running so
    many common-rail engines ;-)

    Huw
     
    Huw, Dec 4, 2005
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    Huw Guest

    You may have the advantage that it is not yet commonplace so it might work.
    However it would have to be a smaller nozzle to work and I am a great
    believer in bigger nozzles for faster filling. A square nozzle would be
    good. A tight fitting octagonal with remote venting one even better. There
    is nothing worse than diesel spitting back over your shoes as the tank
    fills. One of the worse offenders for this is the US built Mercedes
    ML270CDi. A real pig to fill.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Dec 5, 2005
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

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    Are you talking genuine parts or pattern stuff here?
    Haven't thought to work out the cause of bent conrods then?
     
    Andy Hewitt, Dec 5, 2005
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

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    I can assure you, noise is not an issue with the new one, and the diesel
    is the 2.2 lump from the Accord.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Dec 5, 2005
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    Guy King Guest

    The message <>
    from "Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> contains these words:

    If I were cynical I'd say it's deliberately careless.
     
    Guy King, Dec 5, 2005
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