Unexplained Coolant loss

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Bulletsnbrains, Jun 26, 2004.

  1. I have a 2001 Jeep Cherokee with a total of 29.5K miles with only 5 weeks
    to go on the warranty. I have taken the XJ back for a 2nd time(this year)
    now for coolant loss. There are no traces on the ground or in the engine
    compartment. I do not see excessive smoke out the tailpipe or any wetness on
    the hoses or smell it anytime .The bottle was checked by the dealer and
    found nothing wrong with it or the system. Both times the dealer had
    pressure checked the system to 18 psi and left it sit for 40+ minutes with
    no pressure loss. I have asked as of this week that THEY will add coolant
    when I see the bottle go empty. This is my attempt at as much documentation
    before warranty expires. The consumption rate in the last 3 months or
    approximately 3000 miles was 2 gallons!.

    Anyone with similar? How was it resolved?

    Brian
     
    Bulletsnbrains, Jun 26, 2004
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    Bill Sprague Guest

    Probably a leak either at the head gasket or small crack or hole between the
    cooling system and a cylinder. Have them pressurize each cylinder with a
    leakdown tester (engine hot and cold) A leak will be indicated with a rise
    of coolant in the recovery bottle. The reason I say perform it hot and cold
    is that the leak may only occur at either hot or cold but not both.

    Bill
     
    Bill Sprague, Jun 27, 2004
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    rel14 Guest

    Good advise to perform it hot. If this is a hair line crack in the block or
    head casting, the crack may not open up enough to pass coolant or air until
    it's hot.
     
    rel14, Jun 27, 2004
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    jdoe Guest

    May be the water pump or cap. My T&C was doing some coolant loss and the
    system pressure checked ok but the cap was not holding. Additionally I had a
    miniscule leak in the water pump. Did not show any leak but it would "burp"
    a tiny bit at the weep hole but not enough to show up on the floor.
    Larry
     
    jdoe, Jun 27, 2004
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  5. Well, I took it in Monday afternoon with less than a week since the last
    time in. The reservoir bottle was empty and the mechanic topped it off. A
    discussion with the service manager and his boss has resulted in an
    agreement that the next time I come in to re-top the bottle, that I would
    leave it with them to have another look see. I myself did not find any leaks
    on the water pump or hoses anywhere. They didn't see anything either... So I
    think this time around they will pull the head and check for cracks and
    flatness.

    Brian
     
    Bulletsnbrains, Jun 29, 2004
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    Mike C1 Guest

    If it were me, I would have the engine oil analyzed for coolant. It is a
    cheap test (about $15) and would indicate if the coolant is entering the
    crankcase somehow. Coolant in the oil will cause a lot of problems.
     
    Mike C1, Jul 2, 2004
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  7. Hi Mike,

    The dealer has been reluctant to do anything but a pressure test. I guess he
    follows the standard procedures Jeep has set forth. I got the "99% of all
    problems are found with the pressure test" from the service manager. I told
    him that just maybe I could be the 1% since you haven't solved anything yet!

    The jeep goes back Monday again with 100 miles and 1 week since last time
    they filled the recovery bottle. They will keep it this time and look deeper
    into the problem.

    I'd hate to have them destory another shortblock, because they haven't
    looked at the head yet.

    Brian
     
    Bulletsnbrains, Jul 4, 2004
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  8. Thanks, to all who responded. Got my XJ back on Friday and dealer had
    replaced the head. They did not see anything wrong visually, but the dealer
    sent it out to a machine shop and they found a crack.

    Brian
     
    Bulletsnbrains, Jul 13, 2004
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