UAW vs UMWA

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Ralph Griffith, Jun 20, 2007.

  1. Ralph, I think this man is an idiot. The union (UMWA) is the reason the
    men make the so called big bucks they make today. The non union would not
    make as much as they do if it wasn't for fear that the men would organize.
    my husband was union and so was my father . And in the last strike the
    UAW supported the UMWA in their strike by send members down to help stand
    againt the coal company/ I would like to think that the UMWA would stand by
    the Auto Workers. There are a lot of people from here that went up north
    to work for the Auto Companies "THE BIG THREE" . They went to make
    money. And they made good money and have good retirements. They got their
    pay for an honest days work. As far as the big 3, they have got to start
    making cars that are more economical . Both to the environment and
    financially . They have the knowledge but aren't using it. As for the
    idiot , he probably wasn't worth fighting for . The UNION protects their
    own . When you don't live by the law of the Union or workplace -----you
    should be FIRED . HE SOUNDS LIKE A SCAB TO ME. EDUCATION AND ALL. BY THE
    WAY THE UMWA ARE NOT UNEDUCATED OR STUPID.
    This is my take on the subject. I AM A FIRM BELIEVER IN THE UNION. . So
    that Dave fellow can take that to the FRIGGEN BANK.
    Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:41:07 AM
    Subject: Fw: UAW to members: We'll fight givebacks


    Don't believe this fellow cares for the unions!
    Life is a coin. You can spend it anyway you wish, but you can only spend it
    once."
     
    Ralph Griffith, Jun 20, 2007
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  2. organize.

    That is true. It is also true that if none of the unions existed, yet the
    laws
    were not written to prohibit unionization, that the fear of the workers
    unionizing
    would still keep wages up.

    The biggest thing that the unions did when they got started was to use
    political
    pressure to remove all the legal blocks to organizing. At that time
    business owners
    didn't realize that pressuring the government to pass laws to make
    unionization
    difficult merely pushed workers right into the union.

    Today, the business owners in non-union industries have figured this out,
    and
    do not overtly make things difficult to unionize. What they do do, is when
    it
    appears that the ground is fertile to support a unionization drive, is they
    start
    raising wages.

    Unions today need to climb out of the idea that they are only all about
    collective bargaining. Take a look at the IBEW someday. That's an example
    of a forward-looking modern Union that is liked by both the union members
    and their employers.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 20, 2007
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  3. Ralph Griffith

    Bill Putney Guest

    All I've got to say is that the unions are not helping their thug
    reputation by their recent tactic of pushing for open ballot voting (in
    which your vote is made known when and where you cast it).

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 20, 2007
    #3
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