Towing with '99 T&C 3.8L AWD ?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Brigitte, Apr 11, 2005.

  1. Brigitte

    Brigitte Guest

    I'll be purchasing a camping trailer, and I'm not sure if I should tow it
    with the above-mentioned vehicle.

    Anyone have any experience towing with a like-equipped van? Please share
    with me your experiences. How much weight can this vehicle tow?

    I'm not sure this vehicle has the tow package or not. I purchased the
    vehicle used and don't have an owner's manual. With a visual inspection,
    how can I tell if it is included on the vehicle? There is a hitch, but not
    sure it's original.

    Any comments/advice are greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Brigitte
     
    Brigitte, Apr 11, 2005
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  2. Brigitte

    Mike Behnke Guest

    Your owners manual will state how much you can tow and the max tongue
    weight allowable.

    Advisable to install an additional trans cooler to keep the trans fluid
    cool.
     
    Mike Behnke, Apr 11, 2005
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  3. Brigitte

    Brigitte Guest

     
    Brigitte, Apr 11, 2005
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  4. Brigitte

    Brigitte Guest

    The vehicle is labeled "LXi". Would that tell me whether it came originally
    equipped with the tow package?

    Thanks again,
    Brigitte
    It's an LXi, if that
     
    Brigitte, Apr 11, 2005
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  5. Brigitte

    Mike Behnke Guest

    Missed the part where you indicated you didn't have the OM.

    Take the VIN in to a local Chrysler dealer and ask if they'll run a
    report on how the vehicle was built new. Should give an indication as
    to the options selected.
     
    Mike Behnke, Apr 11, 2005
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  6. Brigitte

    PT_Sean Guest

    I have an 02 AWD. According to the VIN, and DCX h.q., it did NOT come with
    the tow package. My neighbour however, DID order the tow package, $600 I
    think, it listed the tranny oil cooler, full spare, Heavy Duty flasher. I
    pulled the fan cowl open, and saw that I have the SAME tranny oil cooler
    that he has- same part #.

    I concluded after MUCH debate, that the AWD did come with the tranny oil
    cooler. combined with the full spare, levelling shocks, I determine that my
    GCWR is about 8500 pounds (van + luggage + trailer).

    I have added an electric brake and class 2 hitch (3500 pound).

    P.S. tonguw weight is determined mostly by the hitch. The GAWR (gross axle
    weight rating) also determines the tongue weight but make sure the hitch can
    handle the weight first.

    Here are some pics of the oil cooler that I am talking about, as well, some
    documentation regarding tow capacities...

    (scroll down 2/3rd the way:
    http://members5.clubphoto.com/sean336792/1240248/owner-5f8d.phtml)
     
    PT_Sean, Apr 14, 2005
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  7. Brigitte

    Brigitte Guest

    Thank you very much for your informative response to my question. I
    appreciate your pictures too. I hope they help me to determine whether my
    van has the tow package or not.

    I'm going to look under the hood of my van today. Hopefully I'll see the
    same thing you saw under yours.

    I called the dealer yesterday and had them run the VIN number. They said
    that the information on the computer says that I don't have the tow package.

    I found an owner's manual for my van on ebay. I'm not sure I understand
    what it says about towing capacities, though.

    It basically says the same thing as the charts you have shown on your
    website.

    Assuming I have the tow package, and 3.8L engine with AWD, I have a GCWR of
    8,600#. What does that number represent, exactly? I assume it means that
    the combined weight of the van, its contents, and the trailer and it's
    contents cannot exceed 8, 600 pounds. Is this accurate? If so, how do I
    know the weight of my van, before loading it. Is that information in/on my
    van somewhere?

    Thank you,
    Brigitte J.
     
    Brigitte, Apr 21, 2005
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  8. Brigitte

    PT_Sean Guest

    I checked my VIN with DC as well, they said NO to my towing package,
    however, I have EVERYTHING that makes one up- full spare, 160A alternator,
    h.d. tranny oil cooler, ... Hmmm

    The GCWR is indeed the combination of EVERYTHING! Do NOT go over that- it
    protects the engine, drivetrain and suspension!!

    I stopped at a truck scale (it was closed) on a highway once and weighed the
    van. With 2 young girls, wife, full tank o gas, and german sheppard dog,
    the van weighed 2330 kgs, about 5000 pounds. This is probably off by 10%-
    those scales are built for 50,000 pounds, not feather weights like me. 5000
    is a good start.

    One time, with my Coleman Sun Valley, fully loaded for a weekend away, I
    stopped at another scale that measures at each axle- F: 1180 kgs (2600 lbs),
    R: 1410 kgs (3100 lbs), trailer at the trailer wheels: 1270 kgs (2800 lbs).
    Total would be 8500 pounds (plus/minus the scale error)!!!!!!! Yikes. I
    drove slow.

    Curb weight- According to another chart that I have, the curb weight for an
    02 GC, AWD, is 4506 pounds. Non AWD reduces the weight 300 pounds (drive
    shaft).

    Good luck...

    Here is another place to ask your weight q's... www.popupexplorer.com

    Sean
     
    PT_Sean, Apr 22, 2005
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