Too many dealers

Oh - but it's *FREE*!!

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

 

It's easy enough to compare the US system with the Canadian system
because Canada is right next door and there is plenty of travel between
the two. No system is perfect, and the Canadian system certainly has had
its share of problems, but Canada's universal health care system is not
the only one in the world. I know that my late parents' health care in
UK went from being cheap to being free (not to mention that their dr.
made house calls, and they got a non-means-tested allowance for a home
help to come cook and clean for them), and an Australian businessman I
talked to a while ago was horrified to hear how much we are paying for
health insurance; in Australia it's a mere 2.5% surcharge on one's
taxable income.

And in the US, even having health insurance doesn't guarantee that the
insurance co. will pay. And what happens when an employer decides to
switch health plans and "my" physician doesn't participate in the new
plan, or the new plan doesn't cover my specific medications?

Perce

 

I don't know the name of the hospital, but one example was in Washington
State. My sister in laws younger sister was skiing at Mount Baker. Another
person ran into her, and she went into diabetic shock. The hospital would
not admit her, until friends coughed up $700.00 in cash.

Steve R.

 

if your elected officials had to pay for health care( in full )then i can assure
you folks we would have greeat low cost health care insurance for ALL

 

Certain private hospitals can do that. Community hospitals must take anyone.
It depends on how the hospital was chartered. I don't know the details of
it all, but it is a sad situation the few times it does happen.

 

I meant no offence. What do you mean by 'trivial things'?

 

I'm going to call "Bullshit" on that one. That's not how things work. I
believe she may have paid the money and I believe she may have been pressed,
but those are both different from not being admitted until she coughed up
cash. There's more to this story, I'm sure.

BTW - just how did she go into diabetic shock from being hit? That's not
how diabetic shock works. There is indeed much more to this story...

 

Canadians are always telling about long waits for serious issues. Many come
down here for services because the waits are so long in Canada. The only
immediate benefit seems to be for trivial office visit type of care, not for
more critical, and complex issues.

 

Yes, there are at times very large waiting lists. It depends on what you
need done, and where you live. However, when a Canadian with no insurance
comes to the USA to get a procedure done, how much does it cost? I would
rather wait in line, then have a system that gives to the rich, and makes
the poor wait. Again, no offence intended towards you. Neither system is
perfect.

 

If she'd been an illegal alien, they would have been required by law to
treat her. So yeah - in that regard our medical system is very screwed
up.

Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')

 

Mike - you should know that you are not allowed to call B.S. on someone
when they are making a liberal argument. They are allowed to embellish
as they see fit and you can't question it.

Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')

 

Illegal aliens are treated for free - by law they can't be turned down.

Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')

 

If she was an illegal alien she would have had no problem.

 

After the other skier hit her, she slid into a tree with some force. Not
badly injured, but she went into diabetic shock. I talked to her a week
later, after she was back in Canada. Make what ever call you want, it
happened.


Steve R.

 

If anything, I understated it , and I am not a liberal ( whatever that means
in the US). As for the Canadian system, I have had cancer 3 times, and it
served me well.


Steve R.

 

I don't doubt she had the incident, but it did not cause her to go into
diabetic shock Steve. 12 years as a paramedic and I can assure you that
diabetic shock is caused by low blood sugar. It has nothing to do with
taking a fall or any other similar incident. If she suffered diabetic
shock, it was because she was already at a low blood sugar level. That
though, would make the two incidents unrelated, only coincidental.

 

Slow learner, huh Steve? Well listen buddy - three's a charm - give up on
this already will ya? You hafta quit pressing your luck here.

 

If she had low blood sugar, *that* could have been related to the incident.

 

Note the use of the word "coincidental" above. Though, the original story
as relayed by Steve is that she was hit by another skier. The discussion is
only about whether an impact like that can cause diabetic shock.

 

So you corrected the original assumption. Fair enough. Then you
pointed out that *if* she suffered diabetic shock it was she *already*
had low blood sugar. At that point, the discussion was no longer about
*only* whether impact can cause diabetic shock. *If* she was
hypoglycemic enough to be approaching diabetic shock, chances are pretty
good, (blurred vision etc.) that it "could have been related" to the
collision. Getting hit by another skier doesn't necessarily mean the
skier that hit her was entirely at fault.