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Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dorman, Jun 18, 2007.

  1. First off, it was built by Americans in an American plant with a growing
    content of American made parts.

    As for those that won't touch then for repairs, 40 years ago a few shops
    didn't have metric wrenches. Now, it seems most of them actually do. I
    don't expect the repairs to be any more than any other mainstream
    automobile. I got shafted by Buick enough so I've prepared my sphincter
    muscle. If my Buick was not falling apart in the driveway, I'd have another
    right next to it.

    As for the troops, I have family members in Iraq and I do support all of
    them. When you can't make sound logical arguments in a debate you have to
    resort to name calling like that? You should be ashamed of yourself and
    your false patriotism.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Jun 30, 2007
    #61
  2. So I should have bought a Toyota built in Kentucky rather than a
    Chrysler built in Canada?

    Perce
     
    Percival P. Cassidy, Jun 30, 2007
    #62
  3. Dorman

    GlassVial Guest

    So I should have bought a Toyota built in Kentucky rather than a
    Or a GM built in Canada :) All 5 of my GM's I own or have owned have
    been the old vin 2's. The 1 (mistake) of a Ford I owned was a vin 1,
    go figure.

    And if you don't know what that means, look it up ;)

    -GV
     
    GlassVial, Jun 30, 2007
    #63
  4. Dorman

    80 Knight Guest

    You are just jealous because Canada has the #1 auto plant in the world. ;-)
     
    80 Knight, Jun 30, 2007
    #64
  5. Dorman

    Guest Guest

    ;-)

    I always figured that Canada and the USA were so close together in many
    areas
    that we were more like family kin anyway.

    Maybe I am just too cynical in my goldening years, but the sort of ethic
    and
    moral that I see in the USA today is not reassuring that we will give anyone
    strong competition in the future.
     
    Guest, Jun 30, 2007
    #65
  6. Dorman

    Jeff Guest

    Personally, I believe that we are all God's children, regardless of the
    color of our skin or which land mass we live on.

    Furthermore, I don't believe in rewarding people for shoddy work.

    If someone makes a better product, regardless of where it is made, we
    should buy the better product.

    We don't owe anyone a job, not even the people who live in Detroit.
    I don't believe that our troops should have even been in Iraq, but I
    support the troops.
    Really? Why do you wish ill will against anyone?

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jun 30, 2007
    #66
  7. Dorman

    80 Knight Guest

    I totally agree. When I see a car built in Canada I think it is a good
    thing. I think the same of a car built in the USA. You know how I feel about
    car's built in countries other then those.
    We will see what the future will hold. I have high hopes the Big Three will
    come back, we shall see.
     
    80 Knight, Jul 1, 2007
    #67
  8. Dorman

    Just Facts Guest

    What is an American vehicle?
    A big 3 vehicle built anywhere, including those GM Korean built cars?
    A big 3 vehicle built within NAFTA (American)- USA, Canada, Mexico?
    A big 3 vehicle built in the USA (some say America)?
     
    Just Facts, Jul 1, 2007
    #68
  9. Dorman

    who Guest

    That was more the case in the past, but these two very friendly
    countries have been going separate paths in some areas, such as in
    health care and war.
     
    who, Jul 1, 2007
    #69
  10. Sort of, they were never and will never be a part of our healthcare system.
    I'm not so sure the Canadian system is any better.

    As for war, if we had a real one, I'm confident they'd be right along side
    of us.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Jul 1, 2007
    #70
  11. How about Asian owned but the car built by American employed in USA plants
    that buy from a lot of USA suppliers? This morning's paper had an article
    about Honda building a new plant in Indiana. They buy billions of dollars
    from hundreds of US suppliers.

    I don't hear the same squawking about the foreign owned gas companies and
    grocery chains. Some of the largest groceries are owned by British, German,
    and Dutch companies.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Jul 1, 2007
    #71
  12. Dorman

    Guest Guest

    ***********
    Having lived in a country where national health was a real and functioning
    program,
    I feel we are being shortchanged in the USA. Where I lived it worked, and
    worked
    VERY well.
    I agree. They would not follow us into perdition, but they are staunch
    people with
    a strong moral and ethical base.
     
    Guest, Jul 1, 2007
    #72
  13. Dorman

    Steve R. Guest

    We always did!


    Steve R.
     
    Steve R., Jul 2, 2007
    #73
  14. Dorman

    who Guest

    Everyone in Canada has basic universal health care.
    So true.
    BTW Canada is right beside the USA and other NATO troops in Afghanistan.
    Losing lives on a regular basis as well. >:)
     
    who, Jul 2, 2007
    #74
  15. Right, but a friend of mine died while waiting for surgery that was
    postponed for over a year. Like others, he was going to come to the US for
    it, but waited too long. It is not a perfect system.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Jul 2, 2007
    #75
  16. Dorman

    80 Knight Guest

    You are correct, it isn't a perfect system. I was told I needed to have
    another disc removed from my back, in January. The surgery date was
    postponed again and again, and I just had it done this past Monday. It
    wasn't major surgery, but I still had to wait several months. And, the
    surgery was the result of a work injury. On the other hand, I can go see my
    Dr., make as many emergency room visits as necessary, or even use
    after-hours-clinics and not have to pay to use them.
     
    80 Knight, Jul 2, 2007
    #76
  17. Dorman

    Steve R. Guest

    No system is perfect, but a wealthy person with a sore finger should not be
    treated ahead of a poor (or any) person with a life threatening condition.


    Steve R.
     
    Steve R., Jul 3, 2007
    #77
  18. Oh, you pay. Just as we pay for a screwed up system.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Jul 3, 2007
    #78
  19. Dorman

    Mike Marlow Guest

    Amen. I've had many Canadian friends over the years and more than a few
    relatives, who like to bash the American health care system. Well, it's
    easy to do - it has plenty of flaws. That said, when you look at the price
    paid compared to the value obtained, the Canadian system seems to be no
    better than ours. Free services aren't worth much when you pay 50% of your
    income to taxes to pay for a system that only works for the trivial things.
    Hell - we have really cheap emergency room care and doctor visits. I still
    have not seen where the Canadian system has proven to be in any way
    superior. Maybe in concept, but not in practice.
     
    Mike Marlow, Jul 3, 2007
    #79
  20. Dorman

    Steve W. Guest

    Show me a hospital where that has actually happened. The laws state that
    NO hospital can refuse to treat a patient presenting a life threatening
    condition. They also cannot refuse treatment based on the ability or
    lack of to pay. You might want to look at how much health care hospitals
    in the US provide FREE to people. There is a LOT and it is growing all
    the time with all the illegals and welfare changes being made. Also look
    at how many hospitals are being closed down by the states they are in.
    In this area alone there have been 6 closed in the past 2 years. WHY?
    Because the liberals keep forcing more legislation to "help the poor".
    They seem to forget that the TRULY poor already don't pay for a lot of
    what they get.
     
    Steve W., Jul 3, 2007
    #80
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