Too many dealers

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dorman, Jun 18, 2007.

  1. Dorman

    BlueD Guest

    compared to the cost of the repairs, the home insurance makes a lot more
    sense than the extended service. Even an expensive repair after 4 years
    (on new cars is not very likely) is probably less expensive than the
    service policy, if you have to buy it.
     
    BlueD, Jun 22, 2007
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  2. Dorman

    PerfectReign Guest

    When I bought my Avalanche in Sepember last year, they asked if I wanted
    "extended coverage."

    The price was $1200. At the time, GM was only offereing 3/36000mi
    coverage. In other words, I'd be paying $1,200 for two years of coverage.

    I declined. Knowing the 5.3L engine and the 4L80/4L60 transmission, I
    figured they would not go bad before five years. Any other repair would
    not cost anywhere near $1200. (I put 150K miles on my '95 Jimmy with the
    4L60 and never had a slip.)
     
    PerfectReign, Jun 22, 2007
    #22
  3. Dorman

    Jeff Guest

    The vast majority of the time, the dealer and insurance company make out
    on the insurance. Otherwise, they wouldn't be selling it if they didn't
    make money.

    jeff
     
    Jeff, Jun 22, 2007
    #23
  4. Dorman

    Jeff Guest

    Insurance is for things that you can't afford to fix yourself. A burnt
    down house, for example.

    The cost of repairs, IMHO, doesn't qualify for buying insurance. The
    odds and costs make auto repairs something that most people should
    effectively self-insurance.
    Yeah, but they can't very well say that these nearly identical cars have
    the insurance and these don't. Those sorts of offers apply to all
    qualifying cars.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jun 22, 2007
    #24
  5. Dorman

    Guest Guest

    They should be illegal!
    You are more likely to be hit by the oncoming driver you blind.
     
    Guest, Jun 23, 2007
    #25

  6. I remember people said this when they changed from the system where one
    headlamp switched off altogether on low beams to leaving both lamps lit
    but aimed down. Then again when they changed from separate bulbs mounted
    in a reflector to sealed-beam units. And again when they changed to
    quartz-halogen lamps. I'm not old enough to remember, but they probably
    said the same when vehicle lighting changed from carbide or kerosene to
    electric.

    Perce
     
    Percival P. Cassidy, Jun 23, 2007
    #26
  7. Dorman

    Guest Guest

    This is a different situation.
    The white level is too high, blinding many oncoming drivers.

    They are unnecessary for our driving conditions, but nice to have at the
    gas consuming high speeds on the AB in Germany.
     
    Guest, Jun 23, 2007
    #27
  8. Dorman

    Guest Guest

    I didnt have a choice in it, one way or the other. My responsibility is to
    dim my
    lights when there is oncoming traffic, and I do my best to be mindful of
    this.
     
    Guest, Jun 23, 2007
    #28
  9. I've not found it to be a problem, even on a two lane that is my regular
    route from work in the dark of winter. Idiots with high beams or poorly
    aimed driving lights are a bigger problem.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Jun 23, 2007
    #29
  10. Dorman

    Guest Guest

    I never complained about others with HID headlights either, Ed. Nor with
    DSLs. They just dont bother me like they apparently upset some people
     
    Guest, Jun 23, 2007
    #30
  11. Dorman

    philthy Guest

    have you had to buy a power steering pump or ac compressor lately?
    the ac compressor runs about 350 to 500 dollars depending on brand of car
    but that extended warranty may cover depending on which one you get. a a/c
    compressor is not a engine or trans but makes the service contract worth
    the money
    spent on it because they also cover r134, seals and reciever-dryer were if
    you did not have coverage it would come out of your own pocket.
    which makes a a/c repair a major expense nowadays even a power steering pump
    is not a cheap fix
    and if you drive a chrysler product you will end up needing a compressor and
    evap coil just hope it fails before a 100k
     
    philthy, Jun 23, 2007
    #31
  12. Dorman

    philthy Guest

    the mark up on servioce contracts is about 50 % if you sell enough of them in
    a 30 day period if not it's less like 35%
     
    philthy, Jun 23, 2007
    #32
  13. Dorman

    Jeff Guest


    So that means that if you sell a $900 policy for $1200, you make a fast
    $300.

    That means, assuming zero overhead and profit for the insurance company,
    a loss of $300, on average.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jun 24, 2007
    #33
  14. Dorman

    Guest Guest

    Insurance is always a loss, unless you need it. Sometimes even then it is a
    loss.

    Life insurance never helped a single insuree.
     
    Guest, Jun 24, 2007
    #34
  15. Dorman

    Jeff Guest

    That's wrong in two counts: With life insurance, you can get an annuity
    with it. That's not a good idea. Plus, if death is imminent, the
    insurance companies may be willing to provide a payout while one is
    still living (at less than what the payout would have been).

    However, the insuree is not the person who is insured. Rather, what is
    insured the financial well-being of the beneficiary of the insuree. And
    that has made a lot of lives easier after the passing of a loved (or
    hated one).

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Jun 24, 2007
    #35
  16. Dorman

    Guest Guest


    I know all that, but the fact stands, simple life insurance doesnt help the
    insured.
     
    Guest, Jun 24, 2007
    #36
  17. Dorman

    Bill Putney Guest

    I agree that those repairs are expensive, but I still - were one of
    those problems to occur - would be money ahead without having spent the
    money for the extended policy. Average the cost and the risks over
    several cars over the years, and you would average out money ahead
    without the extended coverage. If not, the companies would not be able
    to stay in business.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 24, 2007
    #37
  18. Dorman

    philthy Guest

    thats the markup the dealer gets from the contract cost to them
     
    philthy, Jun 24, 2007
    #38
  19. Dorman

    philthy Guest

    i picked a repair that i know is a common issue on dc vehicles just like the rack
    and pinions failing along with p/s pumps and wheel bearings that have a high
    failure rate
    the cost of the service contract (not insurance )is justified . also you can count
     
    philthy, Jun 24, 2007
    #39
  20. Dorman

    Bill Putney Guest

    Which is one of the reasons I do my own work whenever possible.

    I happen to have a '99 Concorde with a bad evaporator now, and I still
    have no regrets not having extended coverage.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 24, 2007
    #40
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