Time to say Goodbye?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by mike, Jul 2, 2006.

  1. mike

    mike Guest

    I am still trying to decide if it is time to move on to another car, or
    keep the faithfull 2 door Neon around. The car is running as smooth as
    it usually does, with some oil smoke if you are hard on the throtle. A
    grawl has started in the front passenger side wheel area. Pulled the
    tire off and now suspect CV Joint. Body is in great shape, with only
    some paint touchups needed. (paint is flacking away, but no rust under
    it).

    The question is, with a tight budget, do I consider a total rebuild, or
    move on to another car? This is my second car, and it is not required
    for us to get to work. I have a garage large enough to work on the car.
    Should I keep her, or look for a new one?

    The car is a 95, 2 Door SOHC, with about 430,000KM on it.

    Modifications:
    55MM throtle body added
    Cold Air (no Name)
    Pop Can muffler (it was free, minus the 6 pack consumed installing it)
    Clutch (can't remember the name of it)

    Stock Replacement parts:
    Oil Pan
    axil seals
    Front bearings
    Clutch cable
    Timing belt (twise)
    DRM (day time running light module)
    Head gasket


    Mike
    mlawrenc(at)gmail.com
     
    mike, Jul 2, 2006
    #1
  2. mike

    who Guest

    I'd just patch it until I could afford to put it too rest.

    My '95 Concord has 125K kms, runs like new and I'll just patch it until
    something is made that turns my fancy.
     
    who, Jul 3, 2006
    #2
  3. If you don't need the car, then it's only function is a pleasure car. If
    you don't enjoy driving it anymore then sell it.

    If it was mine I'd sell it, I've read many times that these years Neons
    were disposable cars that were thrashed to death. I also understand
    these are very popular cars with the young and stupid 20 somethings to
    "pimp out" which means if you did sell it, your going to get more for
    it than it's worth. On the other hand, I'm riding a motorcycle nowadays
    and having a lot more fun doing that than I ever had driving around my
    small cars (all of which are sold, now)

    It's been said before by a lot of folks and it's not bad advice, that if
    you are going to own a "spare" car, that a truck is a pretty smart thing
    to have for a spare.

    Now, I've gone through rebuilds on both transmission and engine on
    my past and current cars. Here's some things I've learned that you
    might want to chew on:

    1) You can usually find wrecking yard engines that are in lots better
    condition and are way cheaper than having your engine rebuilt - unless
    your engine is a known weak design. For example, any 3.0L Chrysler
    Mitsubishi engine you find in a wrecking yard is going to be no better
    than what you have. But, the yards are full of 3.3L and 3.8L Chrysler
    engines in great condition.

    2) If you sink the money into a rebuild on the engine then the transmission
    is guarenteed to die while there's still plenty of mileage left in the
    rebuild,
    so when you make the decision to put the money into a rebuilt engine, your
    also making the decision to put the money into a rebuilt transmission
    whether
    you realize it or not

    3) A rebuilt engine will have plenty of longevity unless the rebuilder
    botches it,
    and no matter how good the rebuilder is, they are not as good as the
    factory when the engine rolled off the assembly line. (unless of course
    the engine is a known weak design) In other words, you are assuming more
    risk when you buy a rebuild on an engine than when you buy the engine
    new in the new car. Warranties can take care of this, look carefully.

    4) If a tree falls on the car the day after it comes back from the
    rebuilder,
    will the insurance company pay you what you put into the car? Talk to
    your agent.

    5) You will NEVER get the money out of the vehicle that you put into the
    rebuild if you ever sell it before it just completely conks out. So plan on
    owning this vehicle for a LONG time. If you really like it a lot, great.
    If
    your just looking at it for economic reasons, if there's any small niggling
    annoyances on the car, those annoyances will become major annoyances
    long before you have recovered what you put into the powertrain rebuild.

    6) The older the vehicle body the harder it is to get parts for it. A 10
    year
    old vehicle is still easy enough to find body parts out of the wrecking
    yards,
    a 20 year old vehicle is completely different. If your vehicle is 10 years
    old
    now and you do an engine rebuild, by the time the rebuilt engine is ready
    to die, you will have a 20 year old vehicle.

    7) It is usually wiser to rebuild a vehicle that started life out with a
    high
    dollar value.

    Engine rebuilds work great for commerical vehicles that see a lot of
    yearly mileage, like in the 20K miles a year or above. The reason is
    that what you got going is a practically new body with a worn out engine.
    A rebuild is a nobrainer.

    But a 10 year old vehicle with borderline paint, that is different, a
    rebuild is more difficult to justify economically. Your taking a lot
    higher risk, and you need to weigh things carefully. If you can do your
    own work, then it will probably work out - but it will only be a good
    deal, not a fantastic deal.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jul 4, 2006
    #3
  4. Do you enjoy driving the car? If yes, do some work to keep it going. If it is
    just another appliance, get rid of it and get another replacement appliance.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Jul 6, 2006
    #4
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