Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Nomen Nescio, Oct 22, 2003.

  1. Nomen Nescio

    Nomen Nescio Guest

    Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car

    Times have changed. Russia and America now enjoy peaceful relations, just
    like they did before the '17 revolution, and the time is ripe for a joint
    car venture. Decades ago, the Soviets tried the American market and found
    it wanting. Its a new ball game now.

    Russian engineering gets respect by the public and plenty of it. Just look
    at the Proton and Soyuz rockets. What rockets! Dependable, safe, and you
    know there good just by looking at their exhaust plume - a nice clean
    flame, just like an O'Keefe & Merritt cooker. No smoke belching like the
    Space Shuttle. For patriotic sake, you guys make still tout the Shuttle,
    but not a single one of your would-be spacemen would take NASA up on a free
    ticket. Someday NASA will shake off its "Need Another Seven Astronauts"and
    "Not Another Shuttle Accident" image (even the Ford Explorer and Bronco II
    are safer), but for now as we all know, they are completely and totally
    dependent on the better-than-world-class Russian rocketships and I am sure
    NASA pays plenty of bucks for the privilege.

    I am convinced that Russia can help us out with our car problems too. They
    know how to design cheap and rugged machines of all kinds. Under the
    Soviets, car companies took the back seat of the bus, so had no opportunity
    to strut their stuff. But that was then and this is now. I would not
    hesitate to buy a finely Russian designed, Chrysler-Russian jointly built
    car, sold through Chrysler dealerships.

    Just maybe that Tamaraw FX-like $10,000 diesel utility vehicle can be
    designed and brought to market in the States through such a consortium. I
    see no reason why the U.S. Govenment could not sponsor such a worthwhile
    project, since neither the Russian government nor Chrysler Corp. have the
    seed money to do it right. I think it could be done for 1/85th of this
    year's Iraqi war budget. That's a real bargain to recapture the low end
    vehicle market from the Asians. We're talking about a million units a year
    and all the jobs that go along with supplying materials, labor, sales and
    servicing.

    This is a serious post. I have copywrited it to be sure everything so
    stated here is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and
    irrevocably correct in its entirety, now and in perpeturity.
     
    Nomen Nescio, Oct 22, 2003
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  2. | Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car
    |
    | Times have changed. Russia and America now enjoy peaceful relations, just
    | like they did before the '17 revolution, and the time is ripe for a joint
    | car venture. Decades ago, the Soviets tried the American market and found
    | it wanting. Its a new ball game now.
    |
    | Russian engineering gets respect by the public and plenty of it. Just
    look
    | at the Proton and Soyuz rockets. What rockets! Dependable, safe, and you
    | know there good just by looking at their exhaust plume - a nice clean
    | flame, just like an O'Keefe & Merritt cooker. No smoke belching like the
    | Space Shuttle. For patriotic sake, you guys make still tout the Shuttle,
    | but not a single one of your would-be spacemen would take NASA up on a
    free
    | ticket. Someday NASA will shake off its "Need Another Seven
    Astronauts"and
    | "Not Another Shuttle Accident" image (even the Ford Explorer and Bronco II
    | are safer), but for now as we all know, they are completely and totally
    | dependent on the better-than-world-class Russian rocketships and I am sure
    | NASA pays plenty of bucks for the privilege.
    |
    | I am convinced that Russia can help us out with our car problems too.
    They
    | know how to design cheap and rugged machines of all kinds. Under the
    | Soviets, car companies took the back seat of the bus, so had no
    opportunity
    | to strut their stuff. But that was then and this is now. I would not
    | hesitate to buy a finely Russian designed, Chrysler-Russian jointly built
    | car, sold through Chrysler dealerships.
    |
    | Just maybe that Tamaraw FX-like $10,000 diesel utility vehicle can be
    | designed and brought to market in the States through such a consortium. I
    | see no reason why the U.S. Govenment could not sponsor such a worthwhile
    | project, since neither the Russian government nor Chrysler Corp. have the
    | seed money to do it right. I think it could be done for 1/85th of this
    | year's Iraqi war budget. That's a real bargain to recapture the low end
    | vehicle market from the Asians. We're talking about a million units a
    year
    | and all the jobs that go along with supplying materials, labor, sales and
    | servicing.
    |
    | This is a serious post. I have copywrited it to be sure everything so
    | stated here is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and
    | irrevocably correct in its entirety, now and in perpeturity.
    |

    My guess is that a Russian vehicle would require $20,000 worth of work to
    meet all the federal crash, safety and emissions standards...now your
    $10,000 vehicle will cost $30,000 and it will still be a Russian POS when
    all is done.
     
    James C. Reeves, Oct 22, 2003
    #2
  3. Nomen Nescio

    StevJensen Guest

    Nomen Nescio wrote
    You lose. Where do I go pick that ticket up?
     
    StevJensen, Oct 22, 2003
    #3
  4. Nomen Nescio

    Dave Gower Guest

    Terminal seriousness, or a troll? Get a life, loser.
     
    Dave Gower, Oct 22, 2003
    #4
  5. Doofus, the top-selling car in Russia is the Lada, and
    AvtoVAZ production facilities cannot even keep up
    with the demand. VAZ is not interested in export
    until they have saturation in the Russian domestic
    maker. None of this is any big secret.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Oct 22, 2003
    #5
  6. Nomen Nescio

    rickety Guest

    Serious, you may be, knowledgeable, you are not.

    In non-legal definitions, "Copyright" effectively means that you "own" the
    rights to the work as published and that others cannot publish the work (a
    copy) without acknowledging your rights (often in the form of a royalty
    payment).

    For example, works of fact or fiction may be copyright.
     
    rickety, Oct 22, 2003
    #6
  7. Nomen Nescio

    James Linn Guest

    The LADA and the NIVA(small 4x4) were imported into Canada from early 80s
    until mid 90s, though the sales fell off alot in the mid 80s.

    The Lada was ok, tractor like engine, but body was prone to rust. The NIVA
    was tough. There are NIVA clubs still in Toronto area - they share old parts
    to keep them on the road.


    James Linn
     
    James Linn, Oct 23, 2003
    #7
  8. James Linn wrote:

    Wasn't Lada the car where, if you put it in reverse, the speedometer would
    run backwards?
     
    Tony Muscarella, Oct 23, 2003
    #8
  9. Nomen Nescio

    rickety Guest

    I'm also not sure that the Lada owed anything to Russian engineering or
    design. iirc They bought the plant, dies, and complete production capability
    from Fiat to build the Fiat 124 locally.
     
    rickety, Oct 23, 2003
    #9
  10. Nomen Nescio

    Bill 2 Guest

    The speedometer ran backwards in the K-car. Once while spinning the wheels
    while trying to get out of a snow bank I saw it go counter-clockwise to
    90km/h. When the person tried drive it went all the way around, past 140,
    past the odometer, back over to 40 km/h
     
    Bill 2, Oct 23, 2003
    #10
  11. Nomen Nescio

    Bill 2 Guest

    Damn NASA, getting incomplete combustion with hydrogen and oxygen.
     
    Bill 2, Oct 23, 2003
    #11
  12. The boosters are solid fuel, not Hydrogen/Oxygen.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Oct 24, 2003
    #12
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