The Windshield & Rearview Mirror Saga

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Joe Colella, Sep 14, 2006.

  1. Joe Colella

    Joe Colella Guest

    My son through a baseball in the car knocking the rearview
    mirror off the windshield.

    Now get this... The adhesive between the baseplate and the
    windshield did not fail; the glass did.

    To be accurate, 2/3 of the adhesive between the baseplate
    and the windshield did fail, but 1/3 did not resulting in a
    dime-size piece of windshield still attached to the baseplate.

    I assume the best adhesive to re-attach the baseplate-to-
    windshield surface is still rearview mirror adhesive, but what
    is the best adhesive to re-attach the glass-to-glass surface?

    Thanks!

    Joe Colella
     
    Joe Colella, Sep 14, 2006
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  2. Joe Colella

    DeserTBoB Guest

    Try "threw."
    Uh...try moving the base plate up or down to avoid the chip? Permatex
    mirror adhesive works well as long as you prep the glass as per
    directions with 94% isopropyl alcohol, available at most pharmacies.
    Don't just "Windex" the glass, as it does leave deposits, as does 70%
    "rubbing" alcohol. Properly prepped, I've never had Permatex adhesive
    fail on these repairs.
     
    DeserTBoB, Sep 14, 2006
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  3. Joe Colella

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    My experience was that a Las Cruces summer would cause it to fail; I
    was putting it back on annually. JB Weld fixed it permanently.

    I don't know where DesertBob is... if he's somewhere hotter than here
    then I wasn't prepping it as well as I thought I was; if he's
    somewhere cooler, then the Permatex adhesive doesn't stand up to
    extreme heat.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Sep 14, 2006
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  4. Joe Colella

    Joe Colella Guest


    Really, PERMATEX works on glass-to-glass as well as metal-to-glass?
     
    Joe Colella, Sep 14, 2006
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  5. Joe Colella

    Joe Colella Guest

    JB Weld for metal-to-glass and glass-to-glass...

    That's good to know!

    Thanks,

    Joe
     
    Joe Colella, Sep 14, 2006
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  6. Joe Colella

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Of course, be aware that it *isn't* transparent.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Sep 14, 2006
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  7. Joe Colella

    DeserTBoB Guest

    Been to Las Cruces...mild there!
    Edge of the Mojave Desert.
    115° here isn't uncommon, and the 2500 ft elevation provides excessive
    UV year 'round.

    If you used "rubbing alcohol" to prep the glass, that was your
    undoing. "Rubbing alcohol" contains 5% glycerine by volume and is
    unsuitable for industrial/mechanical cleaning purposes. It also
    contains 25% water by volume.
     
    DeserTBoB, Sep 14, 2006
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  8. Joe Colella

    DeserTBoB Guest

    Permatex REAR VIEW MIRROR ADHESIVE, yes. Permatex RTV or #2, no way.

    Another Permatex product that works, but it a bit fragile: Rear
    window defogger repair goop.
     
    DeserTBoB, Sep 14, 2006
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  9. Joe Colella

    Joe Colella Guest

    Thanks!


     
    Joe Colella, Sep 14, 2006
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  10. Joe Colella

    Joe Colella Guest

    .... perhaps this was intuitively obvious to a PhD, but certainly not a
    schmuck like me!
     
    Joe Colella, Sep 14, 2006
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  11. Joe Colella

    DeserTBoB Guest

    Bear in mind that the PhD is climatologically challenged, as well. So
    much for a "renaissance education!"

    The Permatex Mirror Mount Adhesive is "transparent," but the object of
    the game, of course, is to only have the adhesive between the mounting
    flange and the glass...nowhere else.
     
    DeserTBoB, Sep 15, 2006
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  12. Joe Colella

    Joe Colella Guest

    Good points!
     
    Joe Colella, Sep 15, 2006
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  13. Joe Colella

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Well... I didn't know how familiar you were with JB Weld, and your
    "glass-to-glass" comment sounded like you might want to use it in an
    application other than just this particular repair. So mentioning
    that it isn't transparent seemed prudent.

    I also don't know what DesertBob means by climatologically challenged.
    With certain glaring exceptions like the past month, Las Cruces's
    climate is nearly perfect. Maybe a little warmer than I'd like in the
    summer (but not in the same league as Phoenix or Houston, for
    example), but no snow in the winter and (ordinarily) no damned rain.
    This Seattle native really, really appreciates that last point.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Sep 15, 2006
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  14. Joe Colella

    Joe Colella Guest

    Dr. Joe,

    My "intuitively obvious" comment was meant appreciatively, although
    delivered sarcastically and disrespectfully.

    Please accept my apologies.

    Joe
     
    Joe Colella, Sep 15, 2006
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  15. Joe Colella

    DeserTBoB Guest

    You didnt' seem to think that I really did live in a "desert," and I
    assure you that I do!
    Las Cruces has a very dry desert climate, making summer cooling via
    adiabatic means a snap. We enjoy that same benefit, although are
    foiled when monsoonal flow from Mexico messed things up. As I
    remember it, it's a very nice town all around...certainly a bit more
    likable than Alamogordo to the north!

    Seattle's a great city as well as it Portland, but that constant
    parade of Pacific storms anytime other than in summer is enough to
    drive one to the antidepressants.
     
    DeserTBoB, Sep 15, 2006
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  16. Joe Colella

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    So you're a little hotter than here (105 is common, 115 is uncommon
    but not unheard of),
    and we're a little higher than you (4000 ft). Don't know which
    difference is more significant.
    Looking around a bit, it looks like the amount of water varies by
    brand; I haven't found a brand that admits to having any glycerine in
    it, though about the only thing various brands of rubbing alcohol seem
    to have in common is that they have some amount of isopropyl alcohol.
    Frankly, it's been enough years since I last had to put the mirror
    back on that I don't remember what I used to clean it with... rubbing
    alcohol is a possibility.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Sep 15, 2006
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