The rise and rise of diesel

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dori A Schmetterling, Jun 14, 2004.

  1. Dori A Schmetterling

    Steve Guest


    Don't get me wrong- they both smell like DIESEL exhaust, and on that
    point I agree with Dan. But there is a sort of "added stench" to Detroit
    Diesel 2-stroke exhaust :p

    I agree it will be "less intense." But a modern 24-valve Cummins in a
    Dodge Ram is orders of magnitude less intense than the stink of a 1990
    Mercedes, but its still instantly recognizable as "diesel" and a lot of
    people find that smell unpleasant, no matter how faint.
    I disagree that lead compounds in exhaust gasses are odorless. I can
    INSTANTLY tell when a car at a racetrack is running either leaded racing
    fuel or aviation fuel- its a characteristic "sweet" (for lack of a
    better term- its certainly not 'sugary') smell. Or go to an air-show and
    smell the exhaust from a B-17 or P-51, its the same smell only even
    stronger. And my 60s cars that I drive routinely don't have a strong
    exhaust odor on today's unleaded fuel, except for the 440 Magnum when
    its cold because the fairly large cam with a rich mixture gives an
    unburned fuel smell for a few minutes until its fully warm.
     
    Steve, Jun 19, 2004
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  2. Dori A Schmetterling

    Steve Guest

    As did Mercedes diesels of the same vintage. Actually, the Olds was
    probably less smoky when brand new.
    Horse apples. I can smell a TDI ahead of me in traffic VERY easily. Its
    not a choking fog like an old Mercedes or Oldsmobile or (worst of all)
    Isuzu truck, but it is VERY noticeable, and is the very same "diesel
    smell" except less concentrated. In fact, its VERY comparable to being
    behind a late-model Ram with the 24-valve Cummins.
     
    Steve, Jun 19, 2004
    #42
  3. Dori A Schmetterling

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Yes, I can detect and prefer the smell of 100LL over car gas, but any
    idea what all components in the exhaust are the main contributors to
    odor? I haven't been able to find anything definitive as yet. Whatever
    it is, it is definitely affected by the combination of unleaded gas, the
    catalytic convertor and modern engine controls.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jun 19, 2004
    #43
  4. Dori A Schmetterling

    Joe Guest

    The sulfur in diesel fuel has to go somewhere. That should be obvious
    enough, if anything is ever obvious on Usenet. As they make lower sulfur
    fuel, it'll stink less. You can count on it.
     
    Joe, Jun 21, 2004
    #44
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