I've been looking for newsgroups regarding this topic of detailing, but couldn't find any. All I want to know is what is the best way to get rid of swirl marks. I try not to wash my car at carwashes so I know I wont hurt the paint and know what I'm using and how. I use the waterless carwash liquid with a terry cloth. I love how it looks, but only on the shade, once it gets to the sun....it's a different story. I see the reflection of the sun with swirl marks around it. I know I can take it to a detail shop, but want to make sure there is no better/cheaper way to do it before I waste 0. [URL]http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=443339&cat=25&val=1[/URL] Any help would be greatly appreciate it. Thanks.