Strange Problem with 1999 Town & Country

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by IPavlov, Dec 21, 2004.

  1. IPavlov

    IPavlov Guest

    I have what seems to be serious problem with 1999 Town
    and Country: all of a sudden it seems to have stuck
    on a middle shift and automatic transmission doesn't
    seem to shift as you accelerate - seems as if
    something wrong with transmission. And together with
    that "Service Engine Soon" lighted up and what is
    particularly strange speedometer and mileage counter
    stopped working.
    I'm at a loss what could it be. If it is transmission
    breakdown, then why is speedometer is at zero no matter
    what speed you drive.. Or could it be that some
    electronic component controlling all of those parts
    broke down?

    Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

    IP.
     
    IPavlov, Dec 21, 2004
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  2. Output speed sensor, most likely. It tells the computer AND the
    speedometer how fast the vehicle's moving, and this info is relied upon to
    shift the gears. Get it in to a competent transmission diagnostician (not
    the dealer, and not Scaamco) NOW. The longer you drive the vehicle in
    "limp home" (permanent 2nd gear) mode, the more damage you'll do.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 21, 2004
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  3. IPavlov

    IPavlov Guest

    Thanks for the info. It really starts to make sense.
    I drove home in "limp mode" about eight miles at about 30 miles/hr.
    I'm wondering how to take it for diagnostics and repairs - would
    driving another 5 to 15 miles at slow speed be a bad idea?
    Also could you recommend

    IP.
     
    IPavlov, Dec 21, 2004
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  4. IPavlov

    IPavlov Guest

    Thanks for the info. It really makes sense now.
    Do you think driving additional 5 to 15 miles at low speed
    to take it for repairs would be a bad idea?

    IP.
     
    IPavlov, Dec 21, 2004
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  5. No. Just don't keep using the van as though nothing were the matter with
    it. THAT is probably the single biggest factor in the high complaint rate
    with this transmission, is that when a fault develops, the transmission
    doesn't stop working. If it did, the damage would get no larger. Because
    it has this "limp home" mode, many people just keep on drivin' till they
    notice something's weird, then they keep on drivin' till they get around
    to thinking about making an appointment to have it looked at, then they
    cancel the appointment 'cause otherwise how are Billy and Suzie going to
    get to karate practice, then they keep on drivin' till they make another
    appointment, etc. Meanwhile, the transmission is under grossly extreme
    internal stress and the failure grows in extent and expense to fix.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 21, 2004
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  6. IPavlov

    maxpower Guest

    Replace the output speed sensor, there are 2 sensors on the front of the
    transmission, the one furthest to the drivers side, at the corner is the one
    that is bad, The part is about 30 bucks
    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Dec 21, 2004
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  7. IPavlov

    Steve Guest

    The output speed sensor is dead or disconnected. That sensor drives the
    speedometer and odometer, but it also is used by the transmission
    controller. Without that signal, the tranny controller sets a fault and
    goes into "limp" mode.
     
    Steve, Dec 21, 2004
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  8. IPavlov

    Steve Guest


    As long as you don't over-rev the engine, no harm will be done by
    driving in "limp" mode. What kills these transmissions is when there is
    a genuine fault and the driver keeps shutting off the car to force it
    back into "normal" mode every time it goes to "limp" mode to protect itself.
     
    Steve, Dec 21, 2004
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  9. IPavlov

    mic canic Guest

    output speed sensor
     
    mic canic, Dec 21, 2004
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  10. IPavlov

    IPavlov Guest

    Thanks for your help. It really looks clear now and explains this
    strange behavior of the wan. Other respondents also agree that this is
    output speed sensor. One additional question: is this part easy
    for a lay person to replace?
    And also: a friend of mine mentioned that some of this auto parts have
    manufacturer warranty, which sometimes covers quite a number of
    years. Is it worthwhile checking that this one has such a warranty?
    The car is 1999 T&C.

    Thanks again,
     
    IPavlov, Dec 22, 2004
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  11. IPavlov

    IPavlov Guest

    What is the best place to buy this part?
    Thanks,
    IP.
     
    IPavlov, Dec 22, 2004
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  12. IPavlov

    Bill Putney Guest

    It's only about a $20-30 part - not worth worrying with warranty even if
    it was covered. 20 minutest to replace.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 22, 2004
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  13. IPavlov

    Bill Putney Guest

    Dealer - anywhere from $20 to 30 depending on dealer gouge factor. I
    think some auto parts chains (Pep Boys, NAPA?) carry it - you might save
    $5 from shopping the dealers.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 22, 2004
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  14. Your friend is confused. Only emission control parts are covered by
    extended warranties like this.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 22, 2004
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  15. IPavlov

    IPavlov Guest

    Thanks. I need to learn more about these things.
    IP.
     
    IPavlov, Dec 22, 2004
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  16. IPavlov

    maxpower Guest

    The dealer carries a 12 month warranty, i recommend that route
     
    maxpower, Dec 22, 2004
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