Starter ground wire?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Chubjack, Oct 31, 2006.

  1. Chubjack

    Chubjack Guest

    2001 Chrysler Town & Country Minivan, have recently begun to have trouble
    with my van starting. When I turn the key to start the van I get a single
    click.
    Seems like I am getting full power as all of the lights are bright and the
    radio works. Eventually, after about turning the key about 10 times it will
    try to start and fail. Then I go through the same thing turning the key
    again about 10 more times and finally it will start.
    I am wondering if this could be the ground wire for the starter.
    It just seems like the starter is not getting enough voltage to engage.
    Would like to try something before buying a new starter.
    Any ideas?
     
    Chubjack, Oct 31, 2006
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    DeserTBoB Guest

    Welcome to the world of Nippondenso starters.

    It's the solenoid contacts, I'll bet large...a common ND failure mode
    for over 30 years.
     
    DeserTBoB, Oct 31, 2006
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    FeMaster Guest

    Yup, that has a probability factor of about 95%.

    If you (the O.P.) are mechanically inclined, you could fix this yourself for
    less than $10. I did mine on a '94 eagle 3.3L. About an hour an half total
    time (removal, repair, and install,) and less than $5 in parts from the
    local "Auto Electric" rebuild shop...
     
    FeMaster, Oct 31, 2006
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  4. Chubjack

    Steve Guest

    Starter solenoid contacts. Classic failure mode on the Nippondenso
    gear-reduction starter.
     
    Steve, Nov 1, 2006
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    Very typical failure on Nippondenso solenoid contacts. Check out this web
    site for replacements if you can't find a local rebuilder that will sell
    them to you. Very easy to replace them. Make sure you clean up the plunger
    contact ring with a stiff wire brush and electrical contact cleaner. The
    site provides clear pictures and lists which parts you will need. Note
    these are the same starters used in Nissan vehicles.

    http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/Starter.shtml


    Good luck.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Nov 1, 2006
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  6. Chubjack

    FeMaster Guest

    Nice site... Very pricy compared to what I paid at the local rebuilders,
    however. Contacts cost me $1.30-something for both, and a new plunger ran
    $3-something. Total cost was $5.03 including 6% tax...

    Definitely look locally first...
     
    FeMaster, Nov 1, 2006
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    My closest "local" alternator/starter rebuilder was 40 miles away and the
    prices for the contacts were higher than what this guy wanted at the web
    site. Yes, do check locally first, but not every rebuilder encourages the
    sale of parts. Sounds like you found a nice guy.

    I own 3 Chryslers and a Mitsubishi, all of which use the Nippondenso
    starter. Family members also have the same and nearly all have required
    contacts about every 5-7 years depending on the frequency of starting. I
    bought the volume package from the guy on the web for a lot less than a
    single rebuilt starter.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Nov 1, 2006
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    philthy Guest

    funny thing
    customer brings me a a van with a 3.8 and it does the click thing' and he brings
    in starter that is a reman bosch he got and of course he's waiting for the job
    to get done and the van has 213 k on the clock and it's really rusted on' i had
    to pound out the old one' get new one in and it starts great the first 6 times
    then bam it clicks again
    boss is giving me that 48 years in the biz look he has mastered
    and we do a voltage drop test to the wiring all is good except starter
    i asked the customer if he took his own eggs to the restaurant and all he could
    do was laugh
    he was trying to save the 40 dollars more, we would have charged for a good new
    one from our supplier but when i inform he as to pay us twice for labor off
    he went to get a new one that was not in stock. moral is you get what you pay
    for and Murphy's watching you. i'm sure that since he is a regular he will get
    the new one installed for free, it's our way of kicking murphy in the butt
     
    philthy, Nov 2, 2006
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