Solution to gas prices: Nationalization

Comrade Hugo Chavez nationalized his oil industry and what to the
Venzuelans get? 12 cent a gallon gas, that's what!

What are we waiting for?

As for the auto industry pain and suffering, it is clear now that private
enterprise can no more compete in the car manufacturing market than they
could send a rocket to Mars. Projects that large are in the realm of the
Government. It takes the combined national resources of a large Government
to build cars and we must face that fact square in the face or become the
dust bin of history in-so-far as this industry is concerned.

 

| Comrade Hugo Chavez nationalized his oil industry and what to the
| Venzuelans get? 12 cent a gallon gas, that's what!
|
| What are we waiting for?
|
| As for the auto industry pain and suffering, it is clear now that private
| enterprise can no more compete in the car manufacturing market than they
| could send a rocket to Mars. Projects that large are in the realm of the
| Government. It takes the combined national resources of a large
Government
| to build cars and we must face that fact square in the face or become the
| dust bin of history in-so-far as this industry is concerned.
|

But is that price comparable with the value of Venezuelan currency? What
does 12 cents equal in US currency? And aren't they Socialist there?

Natalie

 

In message George
Orwell sprach forth the following:

Indeed - go take your faggot ass to Venezuela so Hugo Chavez can **** it.

 

Not competing is precisely the goal of the Oil conglomerates. Thats why
they shut down refineries, buy out independents and support the invasion
of Iraq. Note were not *pumping* much oil out of Iraq but Saddam was.
And he quit using the dollar, switching to the Euro, thereby signing his
own death certificate.

The "dust bin" is in the eye of the beholder and corporate America (for
the most part) doesn't care squat about the citizens or their culture.

Third world dust bin would be just fine with certain cliques of very
influential people.

 

They had 12 cent a gallon gas before Hugo Chavez.

You cannot artificially lower the price of a commodity without the costs
squirting out somewhere else. Ever wonder why Venezuela has always been
so poor?

A repeat of the other instances where we imposed price controls
throughout our history? You are either very young, have a short memory
or have zero knowledge of history.

Or you're a troll.

The ignorance and hubris of this paragraph is absolutely breathtaking.
This has GOT to be a joke post.

 

I'm not sure what you are waiting for, but the rest of us are waiting for
you to move to Venezuela.

Any project that government undertakes will cost on average about 4 times
what private enterprise would spend on the same project. The government's
fingers in the auto industry cause prices to rise.

 

Yes, they are socialist. They are so socialist that they border on being
communist, if they are not actually communist. They do not admit to being
communist, but the economic structure clearly has communist underpinnings.

 

I'd like to point out that our gasoline and Comrade Hugo's gasoline are not
anywhere near the same product. We refine our gas to burn cleaner because we
care about stuff like clean air -- I'll save the argument that we do not
care enough for another day -- where Hugo doesn't give a rat's ass.

Hugo runs a failing economy, ours is vibrant and thriving.

Hugo inherited a nationalized oil industry, he did not create it. We also
have more residents in California than Hugo has in his entire country.

 

ALL of his posts are joke posts. He just doesn't realize it.

 

need help! po440 for my 99 beetel vw

 

ROTFL.

The only thing we would get with nationalized oil is higher prices and
incompetent people in office.

No one has shown that the profits that the oil companies are making are
in any way inappropriate.

Jeff

 

Guess it depends on your idea of socialism. The answer is compared to many
democratic countries, yes. However, they are quickly moving to Castro style
communism. Chavez is already starting to close down media outlets who
disagree with him.

 

get real and go away and don't buy gas in a citgo gas station

 

You mean that the same incompetents who are now running the country
would then be running industry too? Maybe that isn't such a good thing
after all.

Perce

 

So, how is the great Laissez-Faire theory working out since Reagan? For
the middle class, I mean.

 

How far from running the oil business is the Bush gang?

 

What "laissez faire"? You do know what that term means in English,
don't you?

 

One may agree or disagree with any of President Chavez’s policies or
statements, but a reasonable argument can be made that his government
has contributed to stabilizing the region.

It has done so by using its $50 billion dollars of foreign exchange
reserves to act as a lender of last resort, and provide other forms of
financial aid to countries throughout the region. This is what the
International Monetary Fund was alleged to have done in the past but
almost never did.

It is especially important now that Latin America is going through a
major historical transition, where governments of the left now preside
over about half of the population of the region.

Latin America is emerging from a long period of failed economic reform
policies, known as “neoliberalism” there, which resulted in the worst
economic growth performance in more than 100 years.

Hint: neoliberalism is all the rage here right now and its influence is
taking America in the same direction.

From 1980-2000, regional GDP (gross domestic product) per capita grew
by just 9 percent, and another 4 percent for 2000-2005. By comparison,
it grew by 82 percent in just the two decades from 1960-1980. As a
result of the unprecedented growth failure of the last 25 years, voters
have demanded change in a number of countries, including Argentina,
Bolivia, Brazil, Ecuador, Nicaragua, and Uruguay.

Venezuela has loaned more than $3 billion to Argentina, and has loaned
or committed hundreds of millions of dollars to Bolivia, Ecuador,
Nicaragua, and other countries. It also provides subsidized credit for
oil to the countries of the Caribbean, through its PetroCaribe program,
and provided many other forms of aid to neighboring countries. These
resources are provided without policy conditions attached - unlike most
other multilateral (IMF, World Bank, Inter-American Development Bank)
and bilateral aid. By providing these resources, Venezuela is helping
other countries to bring their policies more in line with what voters
have demanded, and greatly reducing the threat of economic crises in the
process of doing so.

 

Great line for the Daily Show.

"Who ya gonna believe..., me..., or your lying eyes."
Richard Pryor

 

"Tegger" ...

I think he probably meant "bourgeois" (middle class)

Laissez-faire means the theory or system of government that upholds the
autonomous character of the economic order, believing that government should
intervene as little as possible in the direction of economic affairs.
(dictionary.com)

Natalie