??? Smog tests in CA ???

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jp, Aug 24, 2004.

  1. Jp

    Jp Guest

    I just transered from Hawaii to here California and found out that I needed
    smog test done on my car. I took it to one of these shops and they told me
    it failed because of an aftermarket air cone filter. Can this be true? It is
    a 94 Chrysler New Yorker with 156k. Engine runs smooth, no smoke. The guy
    told me that the mixture of the air and gas is not correct therefore it
    failed. He did not check nothing else, he just saw the air filter and made
    that assumption. I removed the factory air box coz it had broken hinges and
    thought that I might as well get something better than the stock air filter.
    If this is true, how can there be so many little racing cars here with
    modified air intakes and still pass???? Thanks for your comments.
     
    Jp, Aug 24, 2004
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  2. Yep. The air intake assembly is part of the engine emission control
    system, and all factory stock emissions-related equipment MUST be in
    place, untampered and functional or the car fails CA smog regardless of
    measurements made at the tailpipe. They do NOT **** around on this!
    No, he saw the non-stock air cleaner and that's all it took.
    But these aftermarket exposed cone filters (K&N etc.) aren't better than
    the stock air cleaner. Especially now that you need the stock filter to
    pass smog.
    Oh, that's easy. Cars made before '74 don't have to pass smog. Race cars
    that aren't licensed for on-road use don't have to pass smog. There're all
    kinds of exemptions, none of which your '94 Chrysler qualifies for.

    Go hit www.car-part.com and find yourself a replacement stock airbox.
    Results are listed in descending-price order and only interchangeable
    years, makes and models are shown. You can remove the restrictor cone from
    the stock air intake and get all the "improvement" you need, and since
    it's *inside* the stock airbox, the smog tech won't see it.

    As it stands, you managed to disable at least two critical elements of the
    original emission control system by replacing the factory airbox with an
    exposed-element filter, so...go put it back the way it was and try again.

    Also, yours is a 1994, not a 1974. It can easily still run smoothly and
    with no apparent symptoms and be out of emissions compliance.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Aug 24, 2004
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  3. I just transered from Hawaii to here California and found out that I needed
    Yep, they do several visual inspections, looking for a variety of
    aftermarket parts that do not come with an Executive Order number to
    certify its acceptability, and also for certain missing items. And,
    of course, the air-cleaner housing and other aspects of the stock
    intake system can definitely be part of the emissions-related
    equipment. This is one of the things an inspector is supposed to
    explicitly look at:

    http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/stdPAge...herInfo/Frequently_Asked_Questions_Part_2.htm

    http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/stdPAge...ehicle has the smog equipment required by law

    More generally, see
    http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/stdhome.asp

    He was actually doing you a favor by conducting a "pre-inspection"
    that didn't cause a plainly noncompliant vehicle to be entered into
    The System, whereupon things would start getting bureaucratic and
    expensive for you:
    http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/stdPAge...herInfo/Frequently_Asked_Questions_Part_2.htm



    There *does* exist aftermarket equipment, including some that is
    directly smog related, whose manufacturers submitted it successfully
    for approval and got EO numbers.

    Besides that, I would be shocked -- shocked! -- to find that some of
    the kids were running illegal mods on the street and temporarily
    bolting the original equipment back on when it was time for their smog
    check. Of course, this might also sometimes backfire (no pun
    intended) after their car, driving style, or attitude inspires a cop
    to nose around the car and make a laundry list of additional sorts of
    trouble to get 'em into.

    --Joe
     
    Ad absurdum per aspera, Aug 25, 2004
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  4. Jp

    Jp Guest

    This car failed the test according to the computer that is why he said that
    it was probably the air filter. He started the test after he opened the hood
    and saw the filter, the problem was that it didnt pass. Can that be the
    problem? Thanks.
     
    Jp, Aug 26, 2004
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  5. This car failed the test according to the computer that is why he said that
    Stern's right, a California smog tech can fail your car if it doesn't
    pass VISUAL inspection. (Meaning everything has to be either the way
    the factory set it, or it has to have a CARB EO decal.)

    If your car failed the actual tailpipe test, you'll have to post your
    emissions results numbers for anyone to be able to help you. (And
    don't post them unless everything under the hood is connected.)
     
    Miki Kanazawa, Aug 26, 2004
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