Shifting a604 from Third to First

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Mr. Caravan, Dec 27, 2005.

  1. Mr. Caravan

    Mr. Caravan Guest

    I'm going to take a trip which will require pulling a trailer behind
    my 92 Voyager w/ 3.3. I may have to travel down and up some steep
    hills and my question is: If I'm in 3rd and travelling between 30 and
    35 MPH, can I manually move the shift selector from 3rd down to 1st
    without damaging these sensitive 4 speed trannies??

    Thanks for any and all help!
     
    Mr. Caravan, Dec 27, 2005
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  2. Mr. Caravan

    Matt Whiting Guest

    I did it all of the time on my 96 GV. My transmission wasn't sensitive
    at all and worked fine right up until my van was totaled last week with
    178,500 miles on it. I've heard the early trannies were a little less
    robust so I can't say that my experience with a 96 translate directly to
    your 92, but I'd read the owner's manual and if it says to downshift
    when descending a steep hill, then I'd do it and not lose any sleep over
    it. You do have your transmission fluid and filter changed every
    30-50,000 miles, right???


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Dec 27, 2005
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  3. There is no "1st" position on the quadrant of a vehicle with A604 or
    derivative and without Autostick. The position to the right of "3" is "L",
    and it simply locks out 4th and delays the upshift speeds between 1 and 2
    and 2 and 3. If you shift to "L" while in motion, the transmission will
    downshift into the lowest gear it is programmed to consider safe at
    whatever speed you're travelling. That may be 1, 2 or 3.

    GET A TRANSMISSION COOLER and change to ATF+4.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 27, 2005
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  4. Mr. Caravan

    Mr. Caravan Guest

    You betcha. I do it religiously. Thanks, Matt. Sorry about your van.
     
    Mr. Caravan, Dec 27, 2005
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  5. Mr. Caravan

    Mr. Caravan Guest

    Got a stock tranny cooler and using ATF-3
     
    Mr. Caravan, Dec 27, 2005
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  6. Not good enough for HD towing service.
    Change to +4
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 27, 2005
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  7. Mr. Caravan

    Mr. Caravan Guest

    This is the cooler that came from Chrysler. You say it's not good
    enough? What would you recommend?

    Also, every reference I've seen (including this group) says to use
    ATF-3. It's a 92 Voyager.
     
    Mr. Caravan, Dec 28, 2005
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  8. Yes, I understood that. You are proposing to tow heavy loads with a weak
    transmission design. If you wish your transmission to stay in one piece,
    you will need to keep the fluid as cool as possible, and the factory
    cooler won't get the job done. There are several reputable makers of
    aftermarket transmission fluid coolers. Hayden comes to mind, but they're
    not the only one out there.
    ATF+4 is much improved in every aspect including those that lubricate and
    protect the transmission.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 28, 2005
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  9. There's tons of aftermarket and even factory Mopar auxilliary transmission
    coolers in wrecking yards. In fact if you really wanted to go whole hog
    you might be able to use an old air conditioning condensor. Just make
    sure that any used cooler you get is flushed out with mineral spirits
    followed
    by compressed air. Also make sure it's plumbed in downstream from the
    factory cooler.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Dec 29, 2005
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