Sebring---- SUDDEN ACCELERATION

Discussion in 'Sebring' started by jonz6, Jan 22, 2005.

  1. jonz6

    maxpower Guest

    since the
    driver *never* directly controls the fuel in anything except a diesel.
    Even with a carburetor, the driver controls the *air* and the fuel is
    added in response-
    Wtih a carburetor the driver does control fuel on acceleration.
     
    maxpower, Jan 26, 2005
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  2. jonz6

    Joe Guest

    Every model of every car has some incidence rate of "sudden acceleration".
    After all, we're all human. After Audi installed a brake/shifter interlock,
    that was the end of it for the 5000. Nobody ever really implicated the
    5000's pedal arrangement. So it appears the only variable was the people who
    owned Audi 5000's were more likely to blame somebody else for their mistake.

    To believe that anything mechanical actually happened in that case is to
    ignore all the evidence.

    So, if sudden acceleration happens for real, and you're too ignorant of your
    car to understand what went wrong, then there's nothing you can do. You
    can't explain what happened to anybody. What I mean is, if your throttle
    sticks, you need to say "my throttle stuck" instead of "I suffered sudden
    acceleration due to the negligence of a large corporation" so everybody
    won't dismiss you as an idiot. Your throttle is pretty simple. If it moves,
    you'll have to figure out why.

    If you can't do that, just turn the switch off like you're supposed to and
    deal with the shame in private.
     
    Joe, Jan 28, 2005
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  3. jonz6

    Joe Guest

    I doubt that, I think it's for slower acceleration. If they put "throttle
    response" in the hands of the computer, it can respond whenever it wants to.
    At least that's the feeling I get when I drive one. If the computer decides
    to downshift, it can wait before it actually opens the throttle.

    This has got to be much easier for engine management. Cheaper? No. That's
    just stupid, to think a motor-driven throttle is cheaper than a cable.
     
    Joe, Jan 28, 2005
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  4. jonz6

    Joe Guest

    Drive one.
     
    Joe, Jan 28, 2005
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  5. jonz6

    Joe Guest

    Of course, but you're missing the point that if they were going to open the
    throttle when you wanted to, they wouldn't need throttle by wire. That's
    what it's for, to allow the engine to respond in a more orderly (slower)
    way.
     
    Joe, Jan 28, 2005
    #85
  6. jonz6

    Matt Whiting Guest

    That may well be one reason, but it is hardly the only reason.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jan 28, 2005
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  7. jonz6

    Steve Guest


    One motor-driven throttle that can be used on EVERY engine in EVERY car
    made by the company is cheaper to produce than a different throttle
    cable for every engine/chassis combination. Not case-by-case, but in
    terms of mass production.

    As far as slowing down acceleration- that's mostly (my guess) to control
    emissions and boost fuel economy. The real software benefit of TBW is
    that the computer can cut the throttle whenever the automatic
    transmission shifts, which allows the transmissions to be built even
    lighter and cheaper than they already are because now the computer can
    guarantee that there's no such thing as a "wide open throttle upshift,"
    which transmissions used to have to be able to handle.
     
    Steve, Jan 28, 2005
    #87
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