Sebring 2.7 2001

Discussion in 'Sebring' started by Hennie, Jun 24, 2007.

  1. Hennie

    Hennie Guest

    Hi there,

    Has anybody find the solution of the upcoming oil-pressure-light at idling?

    Hennie.
     
    Hennie, Jun 24, 2007
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  2. Hennie

    Bill Putney Guest

    Yes. 99 times out of 100, it is simply a bad oil pressure switch
    turning the light on, but the pressure is actually OK. I won't go into
    the details (they have been discussed on here before), but you may or
    may not also find that the old switch is dripping oil.

    For the 1 chance in 100 that the pressure is actually low, you may want
    to pay to have a gage temporarily hooked up to measure the pressure to
    make sure it is in spec. Or you can simply replace the pressure switch
    and go on your merry way and probably be fine.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 24, 2007
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  3. Hennie

    Hennie Guest

    Thank you Bill, one of these days I gonna replace the pressure switch and I
    let you know the result via this NG.

    Regards Hennie.
     
    Hennie, Jun 25, 2007
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  4. Hennie

    Hennie Guest

    Today I replaced the oil pressure swich. It was not a simple job to do. The
    switch is hidden behind a metal shield who is hard to remove wih standard
    tools. Anyway, the oil pressure light stays off when idling! Thanks again
    Bill.

    Hennie.
     
    Hennie, Jul 2, 2007
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  5. Hennie

    Bill Putney Guest

    You're welcome - glad to help.

    As far as the difficulty - yeah, that is just the way things are with
    today's cars - they are so compacted and integrated (for weight,
    mileage, performance, and a host of electronics - some useful, some not
    so useful - but it's what we the consumer and the gov't demanded of the
    automakers) that ain't nothin' simple.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jul 2, 2007
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  6. Hennie

    who Guest

    A difficult to replace oil pressure switch is not the result of design
    complexity. It's simply lack of attention to ease of maintenance,
    probably driven by lowering manufacturing costs regardless of later
    maintenance costs.
     
    who, Jul 3, 2007
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  7. Hennie

    Bill Putney Guest

    I disagree. His diffucilty was due to things being very crowded - the
    proverbial 10 pounds of stuff (sensors, modules, wiring, pipig, hoses,
    etc., etc., etc.) being forced into a 5 pound bag (shape and size
    envelope). The pressure switch had to go where it was because of the
    existing engine design. If you routed the switch to another location
    (piping), then you would simply have compounded the problem (weight,
    volume, complexity, cost). If things weren't so tight space-wise,
    perhaps the shield would not have needed to be removed, or perhaps could
    have been deleted entirely. Stick that switch any place else, and
    chances are there would already be another thing (or two) in that place
    that would have to be relocated. It snowballs.

    Bottom line: In any design, everything is a compromise. With things so
    tight, you can't fix one problem without making three others a lot
    worse. With things being jammed so tight, maintenance considerations
    have to take a back seat. Size, weight, power, fuel economy, initial
    cost, ease and cost of maintenance *cannot* all be 9's or 10's.
    Priorities are set - on any given vehicle, some aspects are a 3 so that
    others can be maybe 6 or 7. Start pushing any one aspect to an 8 or
    higher, and something has to give (in the opposite direction).

    Add even more stuff at the factory (full blown workstation computers,
    refrigerant loops in the seat cushion, and other crap that are being
    added to cars now), and all the numbers across the board will drop
    incrementally, and we'll keep wondering why a "simple" repair costs $500
    or takes 3 trips to the dealer to be properly diagnosed.

    But we've done it to ourselves.

    Did I mention that this is one of my hot buttons? :)

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jul 3, 2007
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  8. Hennie

    Steve Guest

    You and me both. I get into arguments here all the time with people who
    like to claim that modern cars are "so much more reliable" than older
    cars.... but my 13 year old car is already getting almost
    un-maintainable because of parts going out of production, semiconductor
    obsolesence, etc. whereas parts for my FORTY ONE year old car are still
    readily available. And cheap, too! So what if a modern engine can last
    half a million miles? The automated butt-scratching accessories and the
    cheap plastics all over the car will fall to bits around it in 10 years
    even if it only has 50,000 miles on it by then. I doubt any car made
    after 1990 will be maintainable when its over 40 years old.
     
    Steve, Jul 3, 2007
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  9. Hennie

    philthy Guest

    my 72 cuda is full of plastic that is just fine
     
    philthy, Jul 4, 2007
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  10. Hennie

    Steve Guest

    So is my '73, actually. The '66 has NO plastic, the 69 R/T has some, and
    the 73 Satellite is all plastic as is the 93 Eagle. But its kinda funny-
    they can now make the dashboard vinyl last a lot longer than the old
    dashes did, but all the hard plastics in modern cars get brittle as
    potato chips after 10 years or so. My 73 has one big dashboard crack,
    but all the hard plastic is perfect. The 93 on the other hand has a
    perfect dash, but every AC vent is falling apart, the cupholder is
    cracked, and all the hard panels and trim around the door handles are
    breaking apart.
     
    Steve, Jul 4, 2007
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  11. Hennie

    who Guest

    I agree with you here. Too much stuff is being built in and it costs too
    much to add. Unfortunately the packages tend to force one into this.

    * I didn't tell Chrysler I wanted a large hard disk in my next car, nor
    * did I say I want a built in GPS.

    For both devices I definitely don't want them locked into my car.
    I want them portable so I can take them when I travel to far away places
    and rent a car.
    Please Chrysler just provide a jack for input to the cars audio system.

    I discussed this with a Chrysler rep at our annual Auto Show.
    He was all excited about these devices in the new cars and appeared a
    bit depressed when I told him why I and most of my friends don't want
    these devices locked into one car.
     
    who, Aug 29, 2007
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