Resistance is futile

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by George Orwell, May 22, 2007.

  1. http://www.just-auto.com/article.aspx?id=91357

    Auto industry analyst Rob Golding...observed that the financial markets
    appear to have heavily backed the Japanese carmakers to succeed in the
    long-term.

    "What is truly staggering is the degree to which shareholders still
    believe that in the mass market, it is really only the Japanese who are
    a guaranteed, all-weather money-making machine. [In terms of market
    capitalization] Toyota is worth a whopping $192 billion and Honda is
    worth $63 billion. Nissan, despite its recent fall from grace, is worth
    $45 billion.

    "Toyota is worth more than the entire European car industry put
    together - Daimler included. Honda is worth more than Ford [$16.5
    billion], GM [$17.7 billion] and the Korean stocks [Hyundai and Kia]
    put together, and Nissan could vacuum up all of the new companies in
    China and India without pausing for a share issue."
    ==========
    Market caps as of the close of trading, 21 May 2007
     
    George Orwell, May 22, 2007
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  2. George Orwell

    Guest Guest

    Resistance is futile....sounds like a Borg Warning
     
    Guest, May 22, 2007
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  3. George Orwell

    Wickeddoll Guest

    | Resistance is futile....sounds like a Borg Warning
    |
    |

    Um...I thought that was why he said it that way.

    But then, I'm a Trekkie, so...

    Natalie
     
    Wickeddoll, May 22, 2007
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  4. George Orwell

    Guest Guest

    So that makes him a Borg Warner?? ;>)
     
    Guest, May 22, 2007
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  5. George Orwell

    Wickeddoll Guest

    <> ...
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    | "Wickeddoll"...
    | >
    | > <> ...
    | > | Resistance is futile....sounds like a Borg Warning
    | > |
    | > |
    | >
    | > Um...I thought that was why he said it that way.
    | >
    | > But then, I'm a Trekkie, so...
    | >
    | > Natalie
    | >
    |
    | So that makes him a Borg Warner?? ;>)
    |
    |

    OK, you have this coming:

    *fwap*

    Natalie
     
    Wickeddoll, May 22, 2007
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  6. George Orwell

    Double Tap Guest

    No, he is just transmitting his opinion.
    Double tap
     
    Double Tap, May 23, 2007
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  7. George Orwell

    Guest Guest

    It was good for me;>)
     
    Guest, May 23, 2007
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  8. George Orwell

    Wickeddoll Guest

    |
    | >
    | > OK, you have this coming:
    | >
    | > *fwap*
    | >
    | > Natalie
    |
    | It was good for me;>)
    |
    |

    Pervert

    Natalie
     
    Wickeddoll, May 23, 2007
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  9. George Orwell

    someone Guest

    baliff, whack his pee pee!
    (i'm a pythoner, myself.)
     
    someone, May 23, 2007
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  10. George Orwell

    someone Guest

    9mm
     
    someone, May 23, 2007
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  11. George Orwell

    Double Tap Guest

    CZ-PO1
     
    Double Tap, May 23, 2007
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  12. George Orwell

    Wickeddoll Guest

    <> ...
    | In article :
    |
    | >
    | >
    | >"Wickeddoll" ...
    | >>
    | >> <> ...
    | >> | Resistance is futile....sounds like a Borg Warning
    | >> |
    | >> |
    | >>
    | >> Um...I thought that was why he said it that way.
    | >>
    | >> But then, I'm a Trekkie, so...
    | >>
    | >> Natalie
    | >>
    | >
    | >So that makes him a Borg Warner?? ;>)
    | >
    | >
    | baliff, whack his pee pee!
    | (i'm a pythoner, myself.)

    Me too!

    Oops- this *started* as a car topic...

    Natalie
     
    Wickeddoll, May 23, 2007
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  13. George Orwell

    Joe Guest

    I don't think that's all that interesting of an observation. GM literally
    has borrowed all it can, and Ford has too. The market is really forced to
    accept that, if the bank says so. Does that make sense? If I borrow all
    the bank will let me, then my net worth has gotta be near zero. The bank
    says so, and everybody else better go along.

    The deciding factor is not the markets, it's when the bank starts getting
    scared.
     
    Joe, May 23, 2007
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  14. George Orwell

    Wickeddoll Guest

    "Joe" <...
    |
    | "George Orwell"
    | >
    | > Auto industry analyst Rob Golding...observed that the financial markets
    | > appear to have heavily backed the Japanese carmakers to succeed in the
    | > long-term.
    | >
    |
    | I don't think that's all that interesting of an observation. GM literally
    | has borrowed all it can, and Ford has too. The market is really forced to
    | accept that, if the bank says so. Does that make sense? If I borrow all
    | the bank will let me, then my net worth has gotta be near zero. The bank
    | says so, and everybody else better go along.
    |
    | The deciding factor is not the markets, it's when the bank starts getting
    | scared.
    |
    |
    But what scares them? Bad business, no?

    Natalie
     
    Wickeddoll, May 23, 2007
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  15. George Orwell

    Leviathan Guest

    Ouch!

    Larry
    Behold Beware Believe

    :
    : : >
    : > : > | Resistance is futile....sounds like a Borg Warning
    : > |
    : > |
    : >
    : > Um...I thought that was why he said it that way.
    : >
    : > But then, I'm a Trekkie, so...
    : >
    : > Natalie
    : >
    :
    : So that makes him a Borg Warner?? ;>)
    :
    :
     
    Leviathan, May 23, 2007
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  16. George Orwell

    badgolferman Guest

    badgolferman, May 23, 2007
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  17. George Orwell

    Guest Guest

    Sometimes it makes one wonder, Natalie....We have seen people like Donald
    Trump get up
    projects in which he risks none of his money, and when they fail (as
    happened a few years ago)
    the banks and investors lose millions. Still, he can always get people to
    put money into his
    projects, I guess because he wins more than he loses.

    People dont really believe that GM or Ford will really go down for the
    count. Historically,
    it has been rare for this to happen to such large industries. But it HAS
    happened.

    Time will tell.
     
    Guest, May 23, 2007
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  18. Give'm another...

    DAS

    For direct replies replace nospam with schmetterling
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, May 23, 2007
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  19. Could break up/be broken up.

    DAS

    For direct replies replace nospam with schmetterling
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, May 23, 2007
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  20. George Orwell

    Guest Guest

    Those are possibilities. If they choose to take bankruptcy, then stocks can
    become worthless,
    contracts can be cancelled, and the company may be allowed to reorganized
    without harrassment
    by creditors...

    An example of a company that went to hell in a handbasket was PanAm...Even
    restructuring
    under bankruptcy protection couldnt save them.
     
    Guest, May 24, 2007
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