Replacing rear brake lines - rusted thru

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by symbiotic, Dec 27, 2006.

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    symbiotic Guest

    help. I can get a wrench on the brake line fittings at the ABS until I
    remove the ABS bracket around it. But, I can't see how that bracket is
    bolts up.
    Can anyone explain how this bracket comes off?
    thank you in advance for your help.
     
    symbiotic, Dec 27, 2006
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    symbiotic Guest

     
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    SBlackfoot Guest

    help. I can get a wrench on the brake line fittings at the ABS until I

    You might want to consider adding a little info.
     
    SBlackfoot, Dec 28, 2006
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    aarcuda69062 Guest

    You probably shouldn't be messing around with the brakes on that
    thing.
     
    aarcuda69062, Dec 28, 2006
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    symbiotic Guest

     
    symbiotic, Dec 28, 2006
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    symbiotic Guest

    First, Thank you for the come back.
    My van is a 1997 Plymouth Voyager with over 120,000 miles.
    Mechanically, it has been very reliable. Externally, its appearance is
    not good... has been beaten up... door dents by other cars doors and
    bumpers... but no rust. So, I'm at the cross road of junking it or
    fixing the brake problem.

    One day the brake pedal went right to the floor but slowly.
    Fortunately, this happened in the driveway. After a careful look, it
    turned out the brake line rusted thru where a piece of flex line (about
    4-5 inches) is pressed on. My guess it was designed this way to absorb
    the vibrations of the ABS.
    line section. In other words, the complete line (from the ABS to the
    rear axle) needs to be replaced.

    I can't afford the dealer's estimate. So, I want to do it myself.

    The problem is to determine if I can do this myself. If I can remove
    the bracket that surrounds around the ABS, I can get at the fittings to
    replace the brake line. But, I can't see how this bracket comes off.
     
    symbiotic, Dec 28, 2006
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    maxpower Guest

    The fuel tank has to be lowered to install this line. The line goes from the
    hydraulic assembly to the rear axle. You buy the complete line. Then you
    will need to have a scan tool connected to bleed the hydraulic system.
    Im just curious, was this vehicle ever undercoated or rust proofed?

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Dec 28, 2006
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    symbiotic Guest

    No undercoat... original from the factory.
    Glenn, I had the same curiousity. Here's my guess - since the flex
    line metal and the steel line metal were different, osmosis occurred
    when the lines were wet. Over time then, it weaken, i.e. rusted, the
    area where the two are pressed on together. The rest of the steel line
    looks good... no rust.
    Question 1. What is the scan tool you mentioned. Can I buy it at the
    auto supply store and how much do you think it will cost?
    Question 2. Is there something else I have to remove in order to remove
    the ABS bracket?

    TIA, George
     
    symbiotic, Dec 28, 2006
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    damnnickname Guest

    I have no idea what bracket you are referring to, the line unscrews from
    the hydraulic system. and at the back of the vehicle. The scan tool we use
    cost about $2400.00. It is needed to bleed the hydraulic system by
    actuating the valves and pump at the same time, without doing this your
    pedal would go to the floor.
    It has been awhile since I had done one of these but the ones that I did
    do were rusted out because the aftermarket rust/soundproofing trapped the
    water at the flex part of the line and rusted it out. There are 2 lines
    next to each other, you may want to have both of them replaced if signs of
    rust are on the other one.
    Just a thought

    Glenn
     
    damnnickname, Dec 29, 2006
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    symbiotic Guest

    Glenn, after thinking about what you say, I'm gonna get estimates from
    shops and dealer. What do you feel is a good estimate?
     
    symbiotic, Dec 29, 2006
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    maxpower Guest

    Rough est. about 3.0 labor
     
    maxpower, Dec 29, 2006
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    symbiotic Guest

    Thanks to all for your feedback.
    George - wishing you a happy new year!
     
    symbiotic, Dec 29, 2006
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