Rented a RWD Magnum in wintery Montana - Yuk!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by NowItsWhatever, Dec 9, 2006.

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    who Guest

    Excess power for that car!
     
    who, Dec 16, 2006
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    Some O Guest

    Yes and doesn't the Impalla now have a V8 model?
    From Yahoo:
    Is it now RWD? If FWD far too much power, bad design!

    Mind you I wouldn't recommend a very high powered FWD car,
    definitely RWD for a car with a high amount of excess power.

    Based on watching others struggling in difficult conditions with very
    high powered RWD cars, I wouldn't drive one in such conditions.
     
    Some O, Dec 16, 2006
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    Joe Guest

    Nope. Except for the Corvette, SSR, and the SUV/truck line, Chevys are
    FWD.
    It's not how much power a vehicle has, it's how you use/abuse it. Seems
    that there are more idiots than not on the roads these days.
     
    Joe, Dec 16, 2006
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    Steve Guest

    No, said by someone who loves DRIVING and hates bad handling. Winter
    driving is a butt-ugly unpleasant necessity, all other driving is both a
    necessity and a pleasure.
     
    Steve, Dec 16, 2006
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    Steve Guest

    SUV drivers, at least the ones that need and understand 4wd and were
    driving 4wd before it was trendy are usually sane enough. Its the Audi
    Quattro and Subaru WRX nut-jobs that think they're invincible and kill
    people.
     
    Steve, Dec 16, 2006
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    Steve Guest

    Au contraire. The car could use another 100 horses... IF it put them to
    the rear or all 4 wheels (as was originally intended for the LH platform.)
     
    Steve, Dec 16, 2006
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    NewMan Guest

    So Dodge is finally catching up with GM!

    My Dad's 1967 GM pick-up has limited slip differential, 292 Straight 6
    with top-loader 4 speed.

    He purchased it new in 1967, and has beat the crap out of it ever
    since. It just keeps going, and going, and going.... even in snow. :))
     
    NewMan, Dec 18, 2006
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    who Guest

    You aren't a legal driver then and are in a different driving world than
    me.
    If I use even 50% of my Concords power I'd be running into other
    vehicles or breaking the speed limits by more than the +10KPh I now
    drive. Our max. hwy speeds are 80/90/100KMPH., I go 110 max. since I
    don't like paying speeding tickets.
    It isn't horsepower that gives you acceleration, but torque at the RPMs
    you normally run.
    For example my wife's 2.7L Sebring has 200HP whereas my 3.3L Concord has
    only 165HP. On acceleration to legal speeds and for climbing our steep
    long mountain hills the 100lb heavier Concord is better. I've tried our
    two cars acceleration at higher speeds than are legal and as expected
    the Sebring was better.
    Three times I've rented heavier Chrysler vehicles with the 200HP 2.7L
    engine, they were all slower than my Concord 165HP in accelerating to
    legal speeds, particularly a Magnum which was a dam slug by comparison,
    obviously because of it's significantly greater weight.

    I have no problem with the Concord FWD delivering it's great mid range
    torque to the road.
    My neighbor has a 2001 300M with the 3.5L engine and he agrees with me;
    it's his first FWD car and he's very happy. He also is a legal driver.
     
    who, Dec 19, 2006
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    Steve Guest

    That's utter nonsense.


    and are in a different driving world than
    That's probably true.
    Its not cruising at 70 mph that requries power, its safely passing the
    car that's cruising at 60.
    True, but since horsepower is proportional to torque multiplied by RPM,
    its quite common to use the two terms interchangeably. If you increase
    torque, you increase horsepower.
     
    Steve, Dec 20, 2006
    #69
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    Just Facts Guest

    Yes torque x RPM = HP, but when torque is moved to higher RPMs to
    increase HP, lower end torque and the flatness of the torque curve
    usually suffers. Seldom does this cam tuning increase torque, it just
    moves the peak torque to higher RPMs for higher HP at the cost of less
    torque at the lower RPMs and a more peaked torque curve.

    Advanced engine techniques such as Turbos, multi valves per cylinder and
    more recently VVT result in a flatter torque curve as HP rises.
    VVT stands out as a win win win, a flatter torque curve, more HP and
    lower fuel consumption.

    Steve since you are so unhappy with your sluggish FWD 3.5L LH car why
    don't you give yourself an Xmas present and help out over stocked
    Chrysler by buying one of their stump pulling RWD 300Cs.
    Here slightly used 2006 300Cs are going for a song and new 2006 300Cs
    are going for a song+. It's the chance of a lifetime because I doubt
    Chrysler will over build so much for many years.

    Then you'll be able to catch up to that bumper in front of you so much
    faster.
     
    Just Facts, Dec 21, 2006
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