remote entry -key fob programming

Keep in mind that when you program one remote on this system you have to
program all at the same time. Or it wipes out the ones that you didnt
program.

You were able to do your older vehicles because it was not using the rolling
code system I would think. when program a key fob into that year you didnt
have to have all of them to reprogram. You were able to add one

I beleive the key fobs were designed more to lock and unlock doors
easier.... not to deter thiefs. The skim key is to deter thiefs from
stealing the vehicle. and the vehicle theft alarm was to deter them

 

maxpower, there is nothing in this description that would preclude

This is the OP checking in. I've been following the discussion and I'm
now at the point where I'm not sure I want to try the process for fear
of ending up with no fob that works! My fobs do have identical Part #
and FCC ID # for what that's worth (the vehciles were 1999 and 2000).
And the process described in the owners manual gives the steps to
program a different fob to work with the car but is silent about
having to apply the process to the existing fob. I can't afford to
have the dealer fix anything I screw up. Maybe I'll just continue
using the low-tech key when I have to use my wife's car


John Keith

 

Understandable, the problem is that this ALSO applies to things such
as the human interface to the engine computer.

Why does it take a $10,000 scantool to interrogate the computer?
Car computers today could be fitted with an USB port and you
just plug in the laptop and run some software on it that interrogates the
computer. Or better yet as I've said before, put an ethernet port
on the car computer and put a webserver in it, and jack in your
laptop running a web browser and use that to interrogate the
computer.

Systems like the car computer interface which would cost almost
zero due to amortization, yet deliver massive benefits, are not
implemented. Systems like powered running boards that do
nothing other than make the vehicle look like a rolling Christmas
tree, ARE implemented. Is it any surprise Chrysler is this close
to bankruptcy?

Ted

 

That's been available for years - I own a third party tool that plugs
into the car's datalink connector and adapts to the USB port of a
computer (typically a laptop) into which you load the tool's software
(basically your computer and the software comprise the "tool").

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

 

Yes, I know about those tools but that isn't what I'm talking about.
The CPUs today used for embedded electronics like a vehicle car
computer have plenty of extra power and the entire software that is
in the tool could be easily stuck into the car computer - thus turning
your laptop into nothing more than a human interface device, and alleviating
the need to buy the software and the adapter that goes from the
datalink connector to the USB port (which if you were to take it
apart you probably would find quite a lot of intelligence in the adapter)

Remember, the software on the computer needs to read lots of
different models of cars, so it's much larger than it would need to
be if included in the car computer.

The federal government standardized the OBD-II connector over
a decade ago, today there's much more common computer industry
standard interfaces - ie: USB, firewire, and ethernet - where the
controllers for these interfaces are much cheaper due to the fact
that they aren't single-sourced. It's high time that the OBD-II
interface be retired and replaced with one of these so you can just
use an off-the-shelf $5 cable to plug your PC into the car computer.

Ted

 

No, in the older vehicles you have to program all the fobs in at the same
time also. But the programming method is different, it involves grounding a
wire and pushing buttons on the fobs, none of this business of requiring 2
working fobs beforehand. When I did it, I programmed the first vehicle
then the second vehicle.

The older system only allows a max of 2 fobs to be programmed.

I'm also pretty sure it's a rolling key system, but I think it's a standard
PRNG algorithm for all of the fobs.

Ted