[QUOTE] You picked a winner! Our PT's were very high quality, not one thing ever went wrong with them: the basic model 4door and the Convertible. If you can live with the poor mileage, it is a great car. I hope that you get more than we did. The base model actually got 26 going 60 to Orlando one time, with the 150hp engine. I thought that that much HP was enough, but my wife wanted hers with the 180hp turbo. That was the one that got the lousy mileage. As I might have said before: if I want that kind of mileage, I will just drive my 41 Windsor around all day![/QUOTE] My Aunt has had 3 of them. She really likes them but she has had some really odd ball problems. One of them would refuse to stop running when she turned the key off. Modern cars have too many things under computer control just to save in wiring costs. Her first was non-turbo Touring, the second was a limited with turbo. She complained that the second on didn't get nearly as good of mileage as the first. Based on her experience (and others I've heard) I would not get the turbo because I want halfway decent mileage. Her third was a basic model because she was out of money and that was all she could afford. My Dad is on his second Pontiac Vibe (same as Toyota Matrix) and he has really liked them. If it were not for their satisfaction with these fairly small yet versatile vehicles I doubt I would have considered the PT or similar.