PT CRUISER THE WAY TO GO

Discussion in 'PT Cruiser' started by up north, Dec 13, 2004.

  1. up north

    Steve Guest

    No, I think the European makers won that war hands down back in the 80s.
    Some of those cars didn't have a single important control left on the
    dash, and have extra stalks added to the column to carry all the
    switches :p
     
    Steve, Dec 15, 2004
    #21
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Personally, I liked the foot operated dimmer switches better than the
    stalk ones. The only downside there was that they tended to corrode
    after a few years in our PA winters.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Dec 16, 2004
    #22
  3. I remember those too. I don't remember a corrosion issue with them though.
    Actually, I don't like controls on a stalk at all. In addition to the floor
    dimmer switch, I prefer all controls mounted on the dash. I want the stalk
    to only operate the signals.
     
    James C. Reeves, Dec 16, 2004
    #23
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Depends on where you live. A few trips across a salted parking lot and
    then depress the switch a few times with your salt and water covered
    shoes, and after a few years you are ready for a new switch. The good
    news is that they were cheap and easy to replace. no need to
    disassemble half of the steering column.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Dec 16, 2004
    #24
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    I like foot switches with automatics, finger switches with manuals.

    I was amazed by the ease of replacing the multifunction switch in my
    daughter's '95 Neon -- comparing that to my son's '87 Le Baron....
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Dec 16, 2004
    #25
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    Nate Nagel Guest

    Ayup, and there were like three part numbers for all cars made in the
    US. (I'm exaggerating a little, but not much.) Peel back the carpet,
    undo two screws and one electrical connector, reassembly is the reverse
    etc. etc. etc.

    I personally like the dimmer on the stalk, I've grown used to German
    cars with one stalk for directionals/high beam and the other for the
    wipers. It's very easy, once you figure it out. What I do hate is the
    typical GM turn signal stalk controls just about everything except the
    seat heaters deal... what an ergonomic nightmare. Why bother to put
    the control for the wipers on the stalk when you still have to take your
    hand off the wheel to turn the little knobby thing anyway?

    nate
     
    Nate Nagel, Dec 16, 2004
    #26
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    indago Guest

    041215 2005 - James C. Reeves posted:
    I recall the first car I had that had the stalk dimmer for the headlights.
    It was a 1980 Buick Skylark, one of the GM X-Car models. I bought it new.
    The first time that I drove it at night I turned on the lights and the
    headlights were on bright. I poked around the floor for the dimmer and
    couldn't find it. Then, I recalled that the dimmer was no longer on the
    floor in these newer cars. But, where was it? I looked around the dash for
    it and couldn't find anything. Then I remembered a joke that was going
    around at the time about these new dimmer switches. It was about Polacks,
    and why they didn't like the new dimmer switches: it was because they kept
    getting their foot caught in the steering wheel. So, I looked around the
    steering wheel and the column, and finally moved the turn signal lever on
    the left of the column, and found the dimmer on that by pulling it up toward
    me.
     
    indago, Dec 16, 2004
    #27
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    robinjoe61 Guest

    If the base model seems too slow, get the GT (turbo). It will out
    sprint most other cars on the road including most Mustangs (including
    the '85 GT' and '68 V8), Mercedes C320 sport, Porsche 944 (and 928),
    BMW 750, '96 Thunderbird LX V8, and an '85 Nissan 300 ZX Turbo.
    But you're right about the lousy mileage and turning radius.
     
    robinjoe61, Dec 16, 2004
    #28
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    robinjoe61 Guest

    The PT Cruiser wouldn't be too slow for you. Here are some 0-60 and
    1/4 mile times (in seconds)
    http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html :
    2003 PT Cruiser GT (Turbo) w/auto 7.2; 15.7
    1989 Porsche 944 7.5 15.7
    1980 Porsche 924 Turbo 9.3 17.0
    1991 Toyota Supra Turbo 7.1 15.6
    1991 Nissan NX 2000 7.8 16.1
    1985 Nissan 300ZX 8.2 16.4
    1985 Nissan 300ZX Turbo (auto) 7.4 15.7
    2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT 7.0 15.4
    1990 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.6 16.7

    But try fitting a load of 8 foot long 2X4's in any of the others, and
    yo're out of luck. They'll fit nicely in the PT Cruiser GT with the
    hatch closed.

    Mileage and turning radius are not so great though. Although it parks
    pretty well despite the turning radius thanks to the rounded front end.

    Read more at my PT Cruiser photo gallery:
    http://www.pbase.com/robinjoe/pt_cruiser

    BTW, I LOVE my PT Cruiser GT.

    I love walking up to it, I love sitting it, I love driving it, I love
    the higher seating position, I love hitting the accelerator, I love
    catching a glimpse of it from a distance, I love loading it with stuff.
    What can I say, I'm in love with my car.

    Funny thing is I didn't care for them when they first came out. I
    thought they were gimmicky, but I didn't realize how practical and fun
    they were to drive.
     
    robinjoe61, Dec 17, 2004
    #29
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    Steve Guest

    I agree 100%. The dimmer switch is ergonomically better on the floor. I
    hate having to take one hand off the wheel (or slide it around the wheel
    to reach the stalk) in the middle of a curve when a car approaches. I
    never found that the dimmer switch conflicted with using the clutch, but
    it SURE does interfere with steering.
     
    Steve, Dec 20, 2004
    #30
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