Police Charger for retail purchase?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by John Bartley, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. John  Bartley

    John Bartley Guest

    I'm an ARES member, fairly active in Amateur Radio Emergency Services,
    and am looking at new '06 Chargers/Magnums to fit my long inseam and
    6'3" height. Yeah, I could probably find a 9C1 LT1 or similar Caprice
    somewhere, but I'd rather drive something less bulky as I have commute
    into a city and parking a whale like a Caprice is unfunny.

    The Police edition of the Charger/Magnum has a beefier electrical
    system, as well as sturdier suspension and other performance/durability
    features I'd like.. so in order to get one, I think I'm looking for a
    fleet dealer (forgive me if my terminology is not correct) who'd batch
    my purchase (no police livery or MARS bar, of course) in with a
    purchase for a law enforcement agency.
     
    John Bartley, Jan 8, 2006
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  2. John  Bartley

    harts Guest

    And you are asking WHAT? P.S. Dealers cannot order Police spec vehicles for
    consumers. Only available for Governments, fleet accounts. So, If you do not
    have a government fleet code, you are not getting one. Oh, and a dealer
    would be in deeeeep Shit if he tried ordering one for a civilian on a
    governmet fleet account. Most likely end up in losing his franchise and
    fined.
     
    harts, Jan 9, 2006
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  3. Who are you, Jake from the Blue's Brothers? Why do you need cop shocks?
     
    General Schvantzkoph, Jan 9, 2006
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  4. Sorry I meant Elwood from the Blues Brothers. Elwood was the one who
    bought the used police car with the cop shocks and the cop engine, Jake
    was in Joliet when he did it.
     
    General Schvantzkoph, Jan 9, 2006
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  5. Uh-huh. And you do what for a living? Are you the fleet sales manager for
    a DaimlerChrysler dealership? You're not? Then STFU.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 10, 2006
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  6. John  Bartley

    jfbialek Guest

    Properly wiring your radio equipment in the car shouldn't require you
    to upgrade to a police spec model. I have a 50 watt rig in my car that
    is powered directly from the battery...I use a relay that is wired into
    the accessary line of the CD player. This way, my tranceiver comes on
    and off with the car but is still powered directly from the
    battery/alternator. This can be done in just about any car and I
    imagine a similiar set-up is all that comprises the radio console in
    police spec vehicles.

    As far as the legality of driving a police spec vehicle, I do believe
    that police vehicles that are sold at auction must first undergo
    various mechanical modifications. The color and decals on former
    police vehicles are the obvious considerations in terms of legality.
    The same applies to the color of former school busses. ...Maybe you
    should looking into getting one of those?

    73.
     
    jfbialek, Jan 10, 2006
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  7. Nope. Having owned several ex-police cars, I can say you are quite
    incorrect here. The decals, light bars, 2-way radios and other police
    cosmetics and comms equipment are removed, and in Canada the Daytime
    Running Lights are hooked back up if they've been disabled, but
    mechanically *nothing* is changed.
    Nope, it's perfectly legal for a bus used for purposes other than school
    transport -- or any other vehicle, for that matter -- to be painted
    National School Bus Yellow. It's just that school buses *must* be painted
    that color.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 10, 2006
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  8. John  Bartley

    N8N Guest

    Because the typical suspension package on a large American car is
    roughly equivalent to a bowl of soggy oatmeal? I'm surprised that
    anyone would ask that.

    Personally, I think there would be a "niche" market for a
    police-package vehicle for the general public; I'd certainly be
    interested in one. Might improve private sector fleet sales as well; I
    would certainly prefer that my company car be so equipped and I'm sure
    taxi fleets would be interested as well (they currently seem to buy up
    all the used cruisers...) not only do cop cars handle better, but all
    the HD options make for better reliability and durability.

    nate
     
    N8N, Jan 10, 2006
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  9. John  Bartley

    harts Guest

    No I work for DC itself. And I know an individual cannot order this package.
    Maybe you should stick to lighting questions Daniel.
     
    harts, Jan 10, 2006
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  10. In what capacity? Lots of people work for DC.
    Engineers...designers...secretaries...janitors...
    Regardless of what you (think you) "know", it happens all the time.
    Lighting is only one of my specialties. Heckling people who say stupid
    stuff is another.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 10, 2006
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  11. John  Bartley

    JF Bialek Guest

    I'm not sure where you got your law degree from, but I'm going to have
    to disagree with that. Check out Title 39, Section 3-77.1 of the New
    Jersey Statutes. It states the following:

    "No motor vehicle with a capacity of more than 16 passengers shall be
    painted National School Bus Chrome, unless it is used to transport
    children to or from a school, a summer day camp, or any school
    connected activity. When a motor vehicle is no longer used for these
    purposes, it shall be repainted a color distinctly different from
    National School Bus Chrome."

    "National School Bus Chrome" is defined here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_School_Bus_Chrome

    Similiar laws include Section 31-20-11 of Rhode Island Statutes and
    Section 49-1422 (4) of Idaho Statutes.
     
    JF Bialek, Jan 11, 2006
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    Our local (Chicago area) suburban mass transit, PACE, uses school busses to
    transport commuters to and from the train station. These are the exact same
    color as the school busses. The only difference is where the School Bus is
    so labeled and visible on the top from the front and rear and on the sides,
    these are labeled PACE. From a distance they appear identical.

    Note that I'm not trying to say anything about NJ. I am just proving that
    Dan was correct and in Illinois, there is no such law.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Jan 11, 2006
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  13. The suspension on the 300C is a good stiff suspension, it's not at all
    like the mushy suspension that you get on cars like Buicks. The
    HEMI Charger probably has the same sports suspension as the 300C.
     
    General Schvantzkoph, Jan 11, 2006
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  14. Who gives a crap what New Jersey has to say, except people dumb enough to
    carry on living there? The law requiring school buses to be painted NSBY
    is Federal. There is no corresponding Federal law requiring that
    decommissioned school buses be repainted another color *OR* prohibiting
    non-schoolbus vehicles being painted NSBY.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 11, 2006
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  15. John  Bartley

    N8N Guest

    Even if that is true (I have never driven one) a police package is
    still a Good Thing (tm) - it's basically like a handling package and
    towing package all rolled into one. Basically all the options that a
    car-savvy buyer would want for a car he's planning on keeping a long
    time all rolled into one convenient RPO.

    nate
     
    N8N, Jan 11, 2006
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  16. Not to mention there's tons of used police spec vehicles at the
    government auctions all the time.

    The governments don't give a shit if a private individual orders a
    police spec vehicle, hell if someone wants to get a car that can
    outrun a police car, they sure aren't going to be getting a police
    spec car. The only people that do give a shit are the automakers,
    and only because they want to maintain the charade that there's
    something different in them that justifies the fleecing of the
    governments that buy them.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jan 12, 2006
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    Gordon Guest

    There is something different in them. The nut driving them...

    just kidding!

    HTH
     
    Gordon, Jan 12, 2006
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