Plug replacement 97 voyager 3.3

Discussion in 'Voyager' started by Larry, Jul 14, 2005.

  1. Larry

    Larry Guest

    How do you supposed to get to the rear plugs on 97 grand voyager 3.3.
    Chiltons manual says remove windshield rocker. I removed the wiper blades
    and the rocker and still could'nt get to the rear plugs, Do I need to remove
    the plennum also and it looks like the alternator bracket, I looked under
    vehicle and it doesn't look like I can get them from there either, Van has
    73,000mi, and still runs great but I don't know if I should trust the wires
    and plugs untill 100 grand like manual recomends. Any comments or
    suggestions would be helpful.

    Thanks to the group.
     
    Larry, Jul 14, 2005
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  2. Larry

    maxpower Guest

    The complete wiper module assembly has to be removed to get to them from the
    top. The easiest way is to raise the vehicle and get them from the bottom.
    Or if you have long arms and lots of patience you can get them from reaching
    around the back.
    If your gonna replace them, I would suggest doing the plug wires also with a
    good set of MOPAR wires.
    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Jul 14, 2005
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    Jake Guest

    Larry, Put on your gloves and roll down your sleeves, this is gonna hurt! I
    have read posts from other guys that have managed to get the rear plugs from
    underneath the van, with some creative extension/swivel use. I found that
    impossible without a lift. The other method, removing the windshield wiper
    "module" is no picnic. I hope you realize that you have to remove the lower
    housing, with the wiper motor and linkage! I just did this(reluctantly) on
    my way to the lifters and I am quite "pissed-off" at the helter-skelter
    engineering that went into turning this 3.3 sideways and allowing next -to-
    NO- consideration for the poor mechanic that has to remove 3 bushelbaskets
    of peripheral crap before he can see or touch the item that has failed! I
    have 79000 easy miles on mine and the factory plugs are worn to a gap of
    0.081". I will compliment the electrical design team on the ignition system
    that can fire that plug under extreme demands! Please let me know what you
    decide to do.
    Jake.
     
    Jake, Jul 14, 2005
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    Steve Guest

    Can be done from the bottom but requires some dexterity. You can drop
    the exhaust for a little more room. If you go from the top, pull the
    plenum and do the heater hoses while you have it all apart. You'll be
    glad you did.
     
    Steve, Jul 14, 2005
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  5. Larry

    Larry Guest

    thanks for the input, I already removed the wiper module and when after all
    that I still had to do a lot more to get to the plugs, Plennum off,some
    alternator brackets etc. I just put it back together and will deal with it
    when I have more time to tear everything apart to get to them, Not like my
    4.0 jeep which is a breeze
     
    Larry, Jul 15, 2005
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    Dave Guest

    Larry, It's not that big of a deal. It shouldn't take you more than 2
    1/2 hours providing you have the necessary tools and a Factory Service
    Manual. Not a Haynes or Chiltons.The easiest way is to remove the
    wiper box,and intake plenum. Use Mo par wires and Champion platinum
    plugs. Make sure you pick up a new intake plenum gasket!! You will
    want to clean the throttle body and plenum with carburetor spray
    cleaner before you put it together. You don't have to take off any
    brackets on the alternator, but make sure the bracket on the right
    side that goes from the plenum to the block gets tightened last after
    you torque down the plenum. If you have any questions, take a lot of
    digital pictures, especially for hose and cable routing. On Wed, 13
     
    Dave, Jul 15, 2005
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    I find top side access to the rear passenger side plug is easiest by
    removing the alternator bracket. This does not require removal of the
    alternator or the belt, just the bracket itself which obviously must be
    reconnected before you attempt to use the vehicle.

    The bottom line is two of the rear plugs are difficult to reach so do what
    you need to get at them.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Jul 15, 2005
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    Dave Gower Guest

    I second that. I bought my first 6-cyl van a couple of years ago, and being
    well used it came with elderly plugs and leaking valve covers. I was
    initially horrified at all the stuff in the way, but with advice from a
    friend who was a tech, and a manual (Haynes, sorry Dave) I found it wasn't
    all that bad. Just took it slow and easy, and made sure once I was in I
    replaced everything that needed it, and used good parts. Two years later
    everything is great.
     
    Dave Gower, Jul 16, 2005
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