Origin of name Chrysler?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Ramon F Herrera, Sep 27, 2004.

  1. Ramon F Herrera

    sparks065 Guest

    The above statement is one of the most jingoistic statements that I've ever
    seen.
    And I write that as an American.

    Most great ideas, inventions or great cars didn't happen in a vacuum or in
    isolation.
    Each inventor/developer borrowed ideas from others.

    Chrysler, Duryea, Ford, Olds and many other American car
    inventors/developers and businessmen
    borrowed ideas from other developers around the world. If you think not, you
    do not truly know
    the history of the auto industry.

    Carl Benz of Germany was the first "auto" maker in the world to offer cars
    for sale in 1889,
    long before the first American car was offered for sale. Word of this spread
    across the Atlantic
    and American experimenters began their activity, with the Duryea Bros
    offering their first cars in the 1890's.

    Europeans were building cars with driveshafts, four wheel brakes and
    steering wheels when
    American developers were still using chain drives, 2 wheel brakes and
    tillers. Of course soon
    after experimentation began, Americans also added their contributions. For
    example, Kettering's
    electric starter was one of the major developments. Cadillac's demonstration
    of interchangeable parts
    was another milestone.

    The knowledge that crossed between developers certainly did add to the
    history of America
    and of other countries. That knowledge was certainly trans-Atlantic.

    Doug
     
    sparks065, Oct 4, 2004
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  2. Ramon F Herrera

    Dan Larsen Guest

    Doug, AKA "sparks065" actually offered:

    The point was that the subject of the original response, that was
    authored by me, was intended to encompass ONLY names of American Automotive
    genius, to keep the scope of the thread to a manageable perameter.

    No one said they DID.

    Really!!??!! So, . . . . guys like Thomas Alva Edison, and his
    neighbor Henry Ford, had their own heroes, ehh??

    Again, . . . . . "DO YA THINK????"

    WOWIE! -- ZOWIE! Good thing they were there, to teach those dumb
    ool' Americans how it's done, ehh??


    Good thing we had the EuroEngineers, . . . . otherwise we dunces
    across the water could never have made it on our own, ehh???

    Folks, I'm sure Doug has the best intentions, here, . . . . in his
    attempt to manipulate history in HIS opinion, but the subject matter was
    Chrysler and the OP seemed to be somewhat of a novice, obviously "foreign" to
    the history of Chrysler, and in answering him, my intent was to include a bit
    of WPC's ancestry and work ethic, . . . . NOT whether he was among those
    emigrating from another part of the world. NOT whether he studied other great
    engineers, . . . . (of course he did), . . . . NOT who his friends or heroes
    were, . . . . . not whether he liked spinach, . . . . or even whether he hired
    Breer, Skelton, and Zeder, because he truly needed them, or whether he was
    stumped to complete the tasks alone. Some folks just can't help themselves,
    when there's a chance to denegrate America, and/or her great history.

    Thanks Doug, for the small window into your world.


    God Bless,
    Dan'L

    Fun to Read: http://www.25thaviation.org/johnkerry/id15.htm
    http://www.johnkerrytruth.com/
    http://www.usvetdsp.com/main.shtml
     
    Dan Larsen, Oct 4, 2004
    #22
  3. Ramon F Herrera

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    (I hope I got the attribution right)

    If the intent was to list Great American Automotive Geniuses, then
    that's what you should have at the beginning of the list.

    It still takes Not Invented Here syndrom to dizzying new depths, but
    at least it doesn't imply that all great automotive geniuses were
    American.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Oct 4, 2004
    #23
  4. Ramon F Herrera

    sparks065 Guest


    Dan,

    I was simply replying to YOUR statement, to quote:

    "as they held NOTHING for the history of my country."

    unquote

    I stand by my view that your statement above is one of the most narrow views
    that I've heard.

    How is saying that ideas came from many areas of the world, a denigration of
    America??
    Do you feel denigrated in life if someone also compliments the fellow
    standing next to you????

    Doug
     
    sparks065, Oct 5, 2004
    #24
  5. IIRC, your point was that they represented some 'Great American Spirit'
    (whatever that is), whereas my contention is that they were 'just' great
    automotive engineers, representing themselves, period.

    DAS
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Oct 5, 2004
    #25
  6. Ramon F Herrera

    Dan Larsen Guest

    Please allow me the suggested privilege of pre-stating my intent in
    this post:

    "I intend to turn the discussion over to the nit-pickers of the group!"

    There! Having satisfied the suggested preliminary topical labeling
    requirements, a few facts need to be aligned before I can complete my
    opbjective:

    First, DAS wrote that I left something out:
    But Doug thought I should have included MORE:
    In order to complicate the issue to the stage of "completely anal," , . . . .
    Doctor Joe thought it could have been better articulated, when commented:

    What you folks have communicted to the O.P. is that the name
    Chrysler, and it's history isn't nearly as important as an ability to argue
    some infantile point of how YOU would have answered the question. Be my guest.
    I give up! I know NOTHING, compared to you, when it comes to the name
    "Chrysler." I hereby defer to the experts in the area of Automotive history,
    Mr. Schmetterling, Dr. Phieffer, and Mr. Doug.


    God Bless,
    Dan'L

    Fun to Read: http://www.25thaviation.org/johnkerry/id15.htm
    http://www.johnkerrytruth.com/
    http://www.usvetdsp.com/main.shtml
     
    Dan Larsen, Oct 5, 2004
    #26
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