Oldsmobile joins Plymouth: RIP

You guys seem to feel that unethical MBA's are screwing things up. I
disagree. I believe that stupid over-confident people who are too dumb to
know what they don't know do the greatest damage to our free enterprise
system. They sound good, interview well, get promoted and don't know crap
no matter how much schooling they have.

 

Pretty much found not guilty do to entrapment defense. He wasn't looking
for trouble. Trouble found him.... at least that is what the jury
concluded. Of course he was caught also falsifying expense reports by
overcharging for meals..... don't remember if they ever charged him for
that.

 

Well, that also is the problem with MBAs. They spent years in
corporate finishing school learning how to push all the
management happy buttons instead of anything useful.

 

Actually, I like the looks of the PT Cruiser. However, I have seen -
at least locally - many of them have problems. I was in a ferry line
up right beside one last year. The guy was cussing the thing out. It
was one week old, and the engine was not running properly The dealer
told him that it would be a three week wait to look at the car.

I talked with my brother about the PT cruiser, and he said they had
nothing but problems and were frequently having to be towed out of
their yard at work.

I dunno. Does not sound good to me. I admit that my experience is by
no means comprehensive, but I just am not getting a warm & fuzzy on
the PT. Perhaps my observances are just not typical of the product.

Ya, I do. GM A/C used to be so reliable it was awesome - and it was
more like refrigeration than A/C ! ))

AhhhhhH!!!! THAT explains it! That puppy is a work horse! Thanks for
the info! (ya learn something new every day

 

Funny how different people can have such varying opinions. We had a Voyager
(caravan with a different grill) minivan. It ate brakes, the steering rack
was bad at 100k, the AC system failed and took out the radiator fan (it
shared a fuseable link until I split them) twice. It cost me over $300 to
get it recharged and it still couldn't cool down the van. The 3.3L started
to get a bad tick on cold startup at 120k even though I changed the oil
every 3k. I got two different dealers to offer us $1000 for it before
looking at it. The first one handed the keys back and told us to keep it
after we close the deal on the Impala. The second one when I bought my S10
I brought it over at night at closing time and took off before they could
look at it closely. I used a broom to knock all the peeling paint off the
hood so it at least looked somewhat smooth and parked it away from the
light
My S10, I'm surprised the heat hasn't metled the dash in the winter and the
cold gave me frostbite the first time I used it. It can actually make it
up the mountain on the way to my parents house without getting a line of
traffic behind me like the van could and the s10 is the little 2.2L! We
had to take the van to the dealer the first time the Fuseable link blew and
burned up the whole wiring harnes, three times for the ABS recall, twice to
turn off the "maint required" light, Plus it kept stalling due to a poorly
designed connector in the crank sensor circuit, and all the little parts I
had to replace and the $ I paid having the stalling diagnosed.
I may not be fond of some of what gm is putting out today but its certainly
better than others.

 

In the long run it wasn't worth the trouble. I got laid off and the company
went into receivership shortly after that. Being self-employed is far better
than being the ethical man at the bottom of an unethical chain of command...

-'dreas

 

My last three automotive purchases were Oldsmobile, Mercury, and Plymouth
if you don't count that last Cadillac. I guess I must be obsolete...

I'm on the lookout for a nice Packard.

-'dreas

 

Talk about STRESS! Been there, done that.

 

No. The legal test for lawyers is the APPEARANCE of conflict. Justice
must not only be done, but must be seen to be done. Therefore,
professionals in a position of trust are held to a higher standard.
Been there done that too!

Both DA and defense council have a responsibility to hand over
evidence to the other side. Hard evidence is NOT the same as
communications between the lawyer and his client (which may or may not
be considered hear-say).

I would not think he can say anything. It is privledged information
and inadmissable.

It would indeed be interesting to sit in. But it would not surprize me
if the tough stuff was discussed. I have taken management courses
before, and the business cases discussed are usually the tough ones.
This causes lots of debate, and gets people involved - some good
learning to be sure.

Be that as it may, even if ethics course discuss the tough issues,
this does not mean that the people who take the courses will behave in
an ethical manner out in the real world. Values, ethics, honor - these
are things that come from within.

 

Funny how Chrysler doesn't talk about that in the ads. Interferes with
the hairychested muscleman fantasy, I guess.

 

Hot imports will still imprint you for life. I mean really hot
imports; the old turbo 4wd Eclipse, old Galants with the same
drivetrain as the turbo 4wd eclipse, subaru wrxs, maybe even the
various acura and honda type rs.

 

No...
"What's the story?", he asked, pulling up a chair and chuckling to
himself 'This oughta be good'.

 

Well, the whole theory behind MBA is similar to the one giving lawyers
primacy; that it doesn't matter what you make or how, business is
business and all should be run the same according to the same
principles.
It can be handy to know some MBA theory in addition to knowing how
your industry works, I guess.....

 

I don't know if it's still true, but used to be in Britain that
passport applications and the like could be signed by clergy, Mayors
and other public officials, etc., or engineers. Not necessarily
because engineers understood calculus or some such, but because it
would be considered a requirement of their profession that they would
not endanger the public by cutting corners on materials, construction,
etc. to save a few bucks, and therefore they could be assumed to be of
reliable character.

 

One big thing is that young folks have no life, and can be worked
until midnight or later every night, especially if you make their
workplace weem like a party, while older folks wish to see their kids
(or if they have no kids their friends, or comfortable home) every
once in a while.

 

Well, you know the joke:
A free market economist would not bend over and pick up a twenty
dollar bill lying on the sidewalk, because he knows that the free
market acts to balance out costs and rewards so that there are no
'freebies', and that twenty must have hidden costs that you just don't
see.

 

Am I wrong about this? I always had the vague impression that GMC
trucks were essentially identical to Chevy trucks, but cost more
initially and for parts.

 

It is so here, in the former british colony of British North America.
I've signed several myself. My wife, a cat and dog killer
(veterinarian) also signs them regularly.

Dan

 

z wrote:

From what I hear from people who own businesses, business school
teaches you virtually nothing about how to run a business
successfully. All it does is churn out people who know how
to work for others in a corporate environment.

 

You are not wrong - now. There was a time when GMC trucks were
different than Chevy trucks. But as time went on, GMC trucks and Chevy
trucks were pretty much the same - just like Chevy cars and Oldsmobile
cars became. Same car, or truck, different hood ornament.

Heck my dad is STILL driving his 1967 GMC truck! 292 CID straight six
engine with a top-loader 4-speed stick, and a limited slip
differential. It is the energizer bunny of trucks, it keeps going, and
going, and going....

A few years back it was looking a little rusty. When he saw the crap
that was being sold new, he went and had all the body work done, and a
new paint job - MUCH cheaper than a new truck!

And it just takes a licking and keeps on ticking! (I always told him
to get those damn lifters adjusted!

He bought it brand spanking new, and I swear, it is going to outlast
him! I don't even want to think about how many hundred thousand MILES
is on that truck!

MAN those were the days! they just do not make'em like that any more.