Oldsmobile joins Plymouth: RIP

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Daniel J. Stern, Apr 28, 2004.

  1. Daniel J. Stern

    Steve B. Guest

    You get to decide that they don't need to take their boat out on the
    weekend? So what are you going to do when your neigbor decides that
    you don't need to have a/c in your house (after all its just a waste
    of energy) or that you don't need to drive your car to work anymore
    (after all a bicycle will work just as well)?

    Why do people need to compromise? If he's burning 200 gallons of gas
    in a weekend he gets the joy of taking out his boat while the money
    from the fuel helps other people persue their happiness from the gas
    station attendant (boat dock attendant in this case I would imagine)
    and refinery workers all the way up the line.

    This is America. If you think burning gas in a boat is wasteful don't
    do it. Don't try to impose your views on my lifestyle though.

    Steve B.
     
    Steve B., May 16, 2004
  2. Daniel J. Stern

    Jinxter Guest

    In a rear-end collision, the Pinto fuel tank was shoved forward into the
    diff. The diff has sharp corners which tore the fuel tank open and allowed
    fuel onto the exhaust, or caught fire because of an external spark. The fix
    was NOT to move the tank. The tank is in the same place in all Pintos from
    day one to the end of production. The fix was to install a plastic shield
    under the tank strap in the front of the tank to allow the tank to 'slide'
    over the diff when shoved forward.

    Want pictures?? I'll drop under my '79 anytime for a photo...
     
    Jinxter, May 17, 2004
  3. My watch still ticks. And it has a quartz crystal too (but no
    batteries).
     
    Matthew Russotto, May 17, 2004
  4. Daniel J. Stern

    Steve Guest

    Yeah, I even still have a few of my old self-winding watches that I pull
    out and wear just for grins now and again.

    But do YOU remember the watch that didn't tick, but hummed? A co-worker
    recently got his old Bulova Accutron restored, and that thing is
    something else. Its sure neat to watch the second-hand sweep around
    smooth as silk, just like an electric wall-clock would!
     
    Steve, May 17, 2004
  5. Daniel J. Stern

    SgtSilicon Guest

    Can't say I remember that one, but I did have a more modern Bulova
    that somehow managed walk itself away somewhere. :(



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    SgtSilicon, May 18, 2004
  6. Daniel J. Stern

    BREWERPAUL Guest

    Its sure neat to watch the second-hand sweep around
    I inherited my Dad's Rolex, and although it's not electric, the second hand
    also sweeps smoothly around. Never would have spent the $$ for one of these
    myself, but I sure love having it.

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    BREWERPAUL, May 18, 2004
  7. Daniel J. Stern

    Guest Guest

    Those of you have have not experienced recent diesel cars should make a
    reality check. Current VW TDI's do not stink, they clatter very little,
    they have adequate power, at least with a manual transmission, and
    unlike most gas cars, they routinely beat their already very high EPA
    mileage ratings. The MB E320CDI is a luxury car in every way, but
    unlike most luxury cars, will easily get over 30mpg in mixed driving.
     
    Guest, May 18, 2004
  8. Daniel J. Stern

    Joe Way Guest

    ==========================================
    You wouldn't happen to know where he got that done, would you? I'd
    like to get my Railroad Accutron fixed.

    Thanks.

    Joe
     
    Joe Way, May 18, 2004
  9. Daniel J. Stern

    Steve Guest

    <walking back from down the hall to ask...>

    He doesn't remember the name, but he found it on the web and it was in
    New England. The watch is still working great over a year later and he
    wears it every day. I did a quick Google, and there are lots of places
    that specialize in repairing and restoring Accutrons.
     
    Steve, May 18, 2004
  10. It is interesting the the US companies were once kings of badge engineering.
    Evne if there are some differences among the cars, it seems VW has taken the
    crown.

    I wonder how regularly their sales staff have to go to therapy and if it is
    part of the benefits package...

    :)
    DAS
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, May 18, 2004
  11. I had the 300 Hz Omega version. Gave off an attractiveand impressive whine
    when held to the ear. Don't know where it is anymore.

    Sigh.

    DAS
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, May 18, 2004
  12. I hear the same song all the time. Fact is they still stink.
    So they DO clatter.
    So they're marginal on power.
     
    Matthew Russotto, May 19, 2004
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    Bobby The D Guest

    Joseph Oberlander wrote in message


    I read somewhere that 80% (maybe more) of ALL businesses fail. It
    only stands to reason that the same percentages apply to those who go
    public.
     
    Bobby The D, May 19, 2004
  14. Daniel J. Stern

    Bobby The D Guest


    Interesting point. Toyota seems to be developing an image for making
    "old people" cars ("old" in this case being boomer-generation) too.
    Isn't that why they introduced the Scion nameplate, as a way to
    attract younger buyers to whom a Toyota was really un-cool? I wonder
    how this will play out as years progress.
     
    Bobby The D, May 19, 2004
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    Nate Nagel Guest

    So what?
    You don't need power when you've got Hand of God(tm) torque.

    The TDI is a better engine all around than the stock 2-liter, and gives
    the (also awe inspiring) 1.8T a run for its money until you actually
    test its ultimate performance. In daily driving not much difference to
    be noted.

    nate
     
    Nate Nagel, May 20, 2004
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    Bernard Farquart, May 20, 2004
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    Guest Guest

     
    Guest, May 21, 2004
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    MajorDomo Guest

    From what I've read Toyota was indeed introducing the Scion
    (pronounced Scy-on) to attract younger buyer to their vehicles
    but from what I see, old folks are driving them, curious.


    Mike hunt
     
    MajorDomo, May 25, 2004
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    John Guest

    I had a '74 Gremlin. I sold my 429 Mercury Marquis and got the Gremlin real
    cheap to economize and go back and forth to college. It wasn't much to look
    at, but it was reliable, cheap transportation. After college, I sold it to
    my little brother who later traded it for a '69 acapulco blue mach 1.
    That's what *I* should have done!
     
    John, May 27, 2004
  20. Daniel J. Stern

    C.R. Krieger Guest

    Close, but no cigar. *In addition*, the Pinto did three other things:

    1.) The fuel tank was *punctured* by rear-facing bolt ends on the rear
    suspension - a sub-$2.00 fix for the plastic shield Ford later
    installed in them.

    2.) As a short-coupled coupe, the rear fenders were pushed forward,
    jamming the doors shut, so the occupants couldn't escape.

    3.) The rear fenderwells beside the seat would split open at the same
    time as the fuel tank was losing its load during the impact. The net
    effect was to *spray the interior with gasoline*. If it *didn't*
    ignite, you were still covered with gas.

    But no other car shared these unique 'features' with the Pinto. You
    can whack my '88 BMW in its rear end, denting the rear-mounted tank,
    but

    a) it probably won't spill fuel and, if it does,
    b) it won't be sprayed around the interior of the car and
    c) I'll just open my *front* door and get out.
     
    C.R. Krieger, May 27, 2004
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