Oil Filter Information

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Highcountry, Feb 11, 2007.

  1. Highcountry

    Highcountry Guest

    For anyone that has not already made up their mind and actually wants
    to use the best filter for the money, reading this post and also the
    links to other pages is a necessity!

    http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy-updates.html

    It is a HUGE study and will take some time to read, so be ready to
    take notes.

    Good Luck, Bruce
     
    Highcountry, Feb 11, 2007
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  2. Highcountry

    John Kunkel Guest

    Groan. Read the warning on the website.

    If you want to determine the "best" filte, use the SAE tests, not an eyeball
    evaluation.
     
    John Kunkel, Feb 11, 2007
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  3. Highcountry

    Bill Putney Guest

    Many people ignorantly cite the study to damn the entire Fram line of
    filters out of hand, yet the author of the study has the Fram Tough
    Guard in the "Recommended" list. Imagine that.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Feb 11, 2007
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  4. Highcountry

    Highcountry Guest

    If nothing else, all that pile of information should make you aware
    that there are really CRAPPY filters out there compared to the better
    ones! And in my opinion, an SAE approval is the automotive version
    of a UL listing for home products--someone paid the License Fee.

    I highly suggest you spend a little money and chop up a few of your
    favorite brands and do come comparison. Two things that are
    difficult to ignore are the Square Inches of filter material and the
    type of Relief Valve.

    Don't just buy a pretty paint job!

    Bruce
     
    Highcountry, Feb 13, 2007
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  5. Highcountry

    John Kunkel Guest

    It's still better than an eyball evaluation, actual filtering ability is
    more important than looks.
    Square inches of material means nothing if the material is less efficient.
     
    John Kunkel, Feb 13, 2007
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  6. Highcountry

    Steve Guest

    Yes, but an eyeball evaluation can reveal weak construction, poor
    assembly, and lots of other things that would make me avoid a filter.
    And presumably a smart buyer would ONLY be comparing filters that meet
    the same approvals and wouldn't even bother with fly-by-nights no matter
    how "good" they look to the eyeball anyway.
    Ah, but here's the rub. An efficient filtration material will have more
    flow resistance per unit area than a less efficient material. So if you
    have a MORE efficient material but LESS area, you pay a huge price in
    backpressure which just means the bypass valve opens sooner. IOW, if you
    see a filter with far less filtration area than another, odds are it has
    a far LESS efficient filter material.

    So in the final analysis, more area is a good thing, provided that both
    filters trap the same minimum particle size.
     
    Steve, Feb 13, 2007
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  7. Highcountry

    Bill Putney Guest

    You sure that's how the filtering industry defines "efficiency"?
    I don't see that conclusion. If the filter material has more resistance
    per unit area, it's just as likely, if not more, that they will use more
    area to give overall better properties (including the ability to hold
    more total crud before hitting high resistance).

    Bill Putney
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    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Feb 15, 2007
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  8. Highcountry

    Steve Guest


    I think we're in violent agreement, Bill. I was pointing out that when
    you do see a filter with relatively little surface area, it probably has
    a material that has holes bigger than Kansas so as not to generate
    back-pressure.
     
    Steve, Feb 15, 2007
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  9. Highcountry

    Bill Putney Guest

    Yep - you're right. I still would like to see what the filter industry
    uses as a definition of "efficiency".

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Feb 16, 2007
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