Obama at the auto buffet

Wall Street Journal

...So far, the Obama administration has yet to lay out its
magical thinking on how the homegrown auto makers are to
become "viable" when required to subordinate every auto
attribute that consumers find desirable in favor of
achieving a passenger-car average of 39 miles per gallon by
2016. Nonetheless the answer has quietly seeped out:
Taxpayers will write $5,000 or $7,000 rebate checks to
other taxpayers to bribe them to buy hybrids and plug-ins
at a price that lets Detroit claim it's earning a "profit"
on its Obamamobiles.

Continued:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124277581459836917.html

 

Lemme get this straight now, including the carbon tax bill as well. We're
gonna bribe consumers to buy plug-in autos. They consume electricity from a
coal powered plant to re-charge these plug-in autos. The electric company
bills that consumer additionally for the carbon released by the electrical
generating plant. The electric company sends that to the U.S. Treasury for
Congress to squander for earmarks so they can get re-elected. If
wind-generated electricity, most likely, GE will benefit and send more lobby
money directly to support the same re-election. Sounds like a win-win
situation to me.

Where's Nancy today? She wasn't at the signing of the 2 bills signed today
by Woebama.

Hope Ford sticks to building cars only instead of getting involved with all
this political crap.

 

Obama will have to subsidize Obamobiles. And you can have any color you
want so long as it is black.

I almost started to like Obama. Problem now is he has turned into a facist.
Yes, facist. If you are not filthy rich or a whinner UAW he doesn't gve a
rats ass about you. He will just charge every middle class taxpayer via the
tax system. Enslaving americans to banks, governemtn and corrupt auto.

Looks like financial liberty in the USA is taking a nose dive.

 

If they do, and tackle the UAW/CAW issues, they just might make it. But if
GM is bailed out, I figure Ford will fail and here is why.

By subsidising one, all the others will find it tougher. Companies unable
to compete with Government Motors will in turn lay off the workers GM would
have other wise laid off.

See, the fucking idiots can't understand the volume of cars needed in the
market place is a whole lot less. Not one damn thing they are doing is
going to creat a market. In fact it will in the long term make it worse.
All the corruption is going on the credit card, will eventually be reflected
back to taxpayers in higher taxes. When it does, people will have yet
another hit on disposable income to buy autos with.

But if GM & Chrysler go down the toilet, the market will normalize as the
customer base redistributes itself to the remaining north american builders
(Honda, Toyota, Ford, Nissan, BMW, Zenn and others). In fact these
comapnies might hire people, sell more cars at a reasonable price without
the taxpayer blood sucking.

 

We can hope. I come from an agricutural region. Many years ago the gov't got
heavy involved with grain production, paying farmers not to grow crops
because of over supply and poor prices. One gentleman I know did not sign
on. He belief was to grow crops when you can because nature doesn't always
cooperate. He had so much production that season, one of the best in years
that storage was a problem while his neighbors grew nothing. A year later
the world's markets changed. Sure enough. He was able to live the easy life
and retire comfortably shortly after.

The lesson:

When gov't says do this, do the opposite. The idiots we elect have no clue.

 

Isn't that the truth.

I for one will let others beta test the Obamamamaobile.

 

There's more to that cozy relationship. Think about who owns much of
the mainstream media outlets that pimp for Obama. It's all starting to
fit now. Whatever happened to the "getting in bed with mean and nasty
big corporations is evil" Democrats?

 

Pimp? Pimp you say?

You must mean Faux Snooze, Premiere Radio/Clear Channel, et al.

Murdoch, Bain, et al

 

No GE doesn't own them,a nd they don't pimp for Obama. Read what I
wrote. It is clear that GE is getting *very* special treatment from
Obama in all the financial dealings and future "plans".

 

Yeah, right. Reads like "Putney on Pimping". A core competency?

In which case you need to include Faux Snooze, Premiere Radio/Clear
Channel, et al. Murdoch, Bain, et al.

 

Yep, Immelt be Harvard. Like Bush, Wagoner, Obama and others. THe Harvard
connection, bilking taxpayers is their new motto.

 

The Obama fantasy. Government Motors. Oba-mama-mobile. Comes in any color
so long as you pay lots of taxes to service the debt.

I suspect the economy is in for another down turn....

 

No, no, no, no,no NO!
Didn't you hear his campaign speeches? He is going to BANKRUPT coal
powered plants. Of course he didn't think about and nobody told him
that the power needed for the government buildings in D.C. are from
coal plants. Nevermind.
What you should have said is that you get your electricity from a
solar cell or a wind turbine. What happens when it's 100 degrees in
the summer when there's no wind, on a cloudy day?
Well, you buy it from China, of course! From THEIR gross polluting
coal generators.
Okay, carry on.
P.S. I noticed this is cross-posted to the rec.autos.makers chrysler
newsgroup. When you gonna change your newsgroup name to
rec.autos.makers.obama.Fiat?

 

Some are redefining their opinions about their "fascism" to be actually of
the old Progressive Party philosophy. That is even more horrific. Research
"New World Order" in reference to the Progressive Party.

I don't trust any of them, Dems or GOPers. The Tea Partiers are getting
sucked in by Republicans. We need a new party with real people, not
professional politicians. Glenn Beck turned me off today while interviewing
a former CIA official that said both Woebama and Chaney have no interest in
the country's welfare regarding their rendetions of a certain holding
facility in Cuba. He basically told him goodbye after that comment. I was
interested in this guy's opiniion and why. I don't have an agenda, but,
apparently Glenn does. One that he's not being up front about. I no longer
have a warm fuzzy about Glenn...
Dave

 

Sounds plausible, and like we have no choice. That is not the case though.
The consumer (us) does not have to purchase automobiles from companies
financed with TARP monies, and politically modified bankruptcies. The
scenario you presented is predicated by GM gaining the vast majority of the
consumers before the other car company makers fail. That just may not
happen as many people want the "good" guys to win, as Americans are living
that way now.
Dave

 

No, no, no, no,no NO!
Didn't you hear his campaign speeches? He is going to BANKRUPT coal
powered plants. Of course he didn't think about and nobody told him
that the power needed for the government buildings in D.C. are from
coal plants. Nevermind.
What you should have said is that you get your electricity from a
solar cell or a wind turbine. What happens when it's 100 degrees in
the summer when there's no wind, on a cloudy day?
Well, you buy it from China, of course! From THEIR gross polluting
coal generators.
Okay, carry on.
P.S. I noticed this is cross-posted to the rec.autos.makers chrysler
newsgroup. When you gonna change your newsgroup name to
rec.autos.makers.obama.Fiat?

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Its cross-posted to the chrysler newsgroup, but went no place but the ford
group. My news server (non-http, genuine news server) doesn't carry the
chrysler group. See "usenet" for clarification about a news server vs.
http. Yes, I understand the humor your were attempting to project.
Dave

 

How would you like to be in a successful business, along comes the
government subsidizing your competition which saturates the market with
excess product causing price errosion? Then you lay people off....but does
not hit the news because you you don't have enough of the right rich people
as creditors.

The auto jobs are lost, just the big shots with taxpayer financed massive
debt are playing the musical chairs game trying to stick the taxpayer... and
the taxpayer shouldn't even be playing.

Lets see how Obama justifies this. Massive unparalleled corruption if GM is
bailed while blood sucking present and future taxpayers.

 

I just heard a story on the radio that Obama agreed to help the United
Arab Emirates with their nuclear power.

Think about this: We are helping *them* become oil independent with
technology that our idiots won't let us use, so that in the future we
are going to be forced to buy their oil when we haven't been allowed to
add nuclear plants or drill our own oil.

After a little Googling - yep - here it is:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1242212428027&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer

"President Barack Obama agreed Wednesday to share US nuclear power
technology with the oil-rich United Arab Emirates, giving his consent to
a deal signed in the final days of George W. Bush's administration.

"The pact now goes to Congress, which will have 90 days to amend or
reject it.

"The agreement creates a legal framework for the US to transfer
sensitive nuclear items to the United Arab Emirates, a federation of
seven Middle Eastern states that wants nuclear power to satisfy growing
demand for electricity.

"Although flush with oil, the emirates imports 60 percent of the natural
gas they use to generate electricity. The United Arab Emerates wants to
break its dependence on outside sources for its energy needs and settled
on nuclear power as the best option."

From this article
http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1151ap_us_obama_uae_nuclear.html:
"The United Arab Emirates no longer wants to depend on outside sources
for its energy needs and settled on nuclear power as the most economical
and environmentally friendly option."


How about letting us add more nuclear power and drill our own oil!

 

no, you got it wrong too.
he is going to bankrupt the U.S.A.

No, no, no, no,no NO!
Didn't you hear his campaign speeches? He is going to BANKRUPT coal
powered plants. ?

 

Sure, vote Palin. Again.