now Daimler is dragging down Chrysler

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by frenchy, Feb 10, 2005.

  1. frenchy

    frenchy Guest

    Just read Mercedes is now the brand that has seen profits plummet while
    the Chrysler end made 10x the profit of the Mercedes nameplate, with
    the hot selling Chrysler 300 etc. How times change...
     
    frenchy, Feb 10, 2005
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  2. I'm still upset about Chrysler selling out to Daimler. I can't believe the
    stockholders bought into it...after all the failed mergers out there too!
     
    James C. Reeves, Feb 10, 2005
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  3. frenchy

    Art Guest

    I do wonder how long the 300 will remain stylish and hot. PTCruiser was hot
    too once.
     
    Art, Feb 11, 2005
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  4. frenchy

    MoPar Man Guest

    The stockholders were told (at the time) that it was a merger - not an
    acquisition as Daimler execs called it soon after.

    What ever happened to Kerkorian's law suit?

    I know that stockholders of record at the time of the "merger" were
    offered a settlement about a year ago (I posted details of the offer
    in this NG) by DC in an attempt to (I think) limit the dammages that
    they'd be liable for if Kerkorian wins his suit.

    Very strange.

    Punch "Kerkorian chrysler" into Google News search and you'll get ONLY
    1 hit.

    Dodge goes retro with Charger
    Seattle Post Intelligencer, WA - 28 Jan 2005
    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/wheels/209515_road28.html

    Pretty recent article. Too bad the link doesn't work.

    Someone is going to very remarkable lengths to keep this story out of
    the news.

    A general web search turns up this article:

    http://www.ai-online.com/issues/article_detail.asp?id=674

    Which briefly mentions the law as still pending.
     
    MoPar Man, Feb 11, 2005
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  5. frenchy

    Bill 2 Guest

    It will remain hot until everyone that wants ones gets one, then the sales
    will trail off.

    I'm still waiting for the Suburban ^H Hummer H2 to stop being "stylish"
     
    Bill 2, Feb 11, 2005
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  6. frenchy

    Mike Z. Helm Guest

    If you go down to your Chrysler dealership, they'll tell you how they
    now have "Mercedes technology" in the new models.

    I've also recently read some complaints about Mercedes quality
    declining.

    Apparently, they're putting Chrysler technology in Mercedes now.

    Don't tell my Sebring I posted this.
     
    Mike Z. Helm, Feb 12, 2005
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  7. Personally, I don't think either one is particularly hot. But, I'm
    obviously in the minority.
     
    James C. Reeves, Feb 12, 2005
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  8. frenchy

    Art Guest

    Some suspension components and the crappy wiper stick has been incorporated
    into some new Chrylsers.
     
    Art, Feb 13, 2005
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  9. Just a reminder that that is a personal opinion. I like the integrated
    wiper stick with indicator, as it happens (if that is what you mean).

    DAS

    For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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    [..]
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Feb 13, 2005
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  10. frenchy

    Art Guest

    Do you have a 300? That has the Mercedes stick.

     
    Art, Feb 13, 2005
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  11. Please pardon my ignorance, but WTH is an "intergrated wiper stick"?

    Gramps


     
    Jim Shulthiess, Feb 13, 2005
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  12. To answer your and Art's queries:

    An integrated wiper stick is one on which the wiper functions and indicators
    (plus main headlight beam) are on the one stalk.

    My car is a Merc -- not Mercury :) -- CLK Cabrio. (My other car is a Merc
    190E with same type of stalk...)

    DAS

    For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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    Dori A Schmetterling, Feb 14, 2005
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  13. Thanks. After getting the thought of a self wiping oil dipstick out of my
    mind, your definition finally came to mind.

    Jim



     
    Jim Shulthiess, Feb 14, 2005
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  14. Now that image sticks in MY mind... It brings to mind an April 1 advert
    that BMW once ran in the UK.

    It promoted the BMW badge with wiper.

    :)
    DAS
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    For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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    Dori A Schmetterling, Feb 14, 2005
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  15. frenchy

    Steve Guest

    Change? That's exactly how it was just prior to the merg^H^H^H^H rape
    and pillage. MB was sucking its own exhaust and desperate for Chrysler's
    modern and rapid design-to-production capabilities. Most pundits who
    actually understood engineering realized that Benz needed Chrysler a lot
    worse than Chrysler needed Benz. Too bad Chrysler management at the time
    didn't actually understand engineering...
     
    Steve, Feb 14, 2005
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  16. frenchy

    Steve Guest

    And had a nice long run, and still sells "OK." If the 300 exactly
    matches the PT's sales curve, it will be an unmitigated success. Nothing
    stays top-of-the-market for decades except a few bland, generic,
    rental-fleet people-movers like Camry and Taurus.
     
    Steve, Feb 14, 2005
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  17. Blame the dollar/euro exchange rate.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Feb 14, 2005
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  18. Stock holders had no choice.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Feb 14, 2005
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  19. frenchy

    Art Guest

    I bet there are a couple of companies out there that would love to make a
    bland car that sells like the Camry.
     
    Art, Feb 15, 2005
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  20. I hate those combination "sticks".
     
    James C. Reeves, Feb 15, 2005
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