no oil in cylinder head

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by torgeir jensen, Mar 22, 2005.

  1. torgeir jensen

    maxpower Guest

    If there is no oil flowing after cylinder head is removed i think i will stop there and try to find a used engine and replace it. Engine has 320 000 km on it and i figure the metal missing from the rockerarm shaft must have gone somwhere. The inside of the cylinder head has a copper like color so it must have been very hot there. One problem though. Removed the exhaust manifold bolts but one bolt was very long with treads all the way out and it had a nut with an alternator mount on it. In other words no head on the bolt

    . Can not figure out how to remove it

    It is a torx head bolt, must of the time you have to use a stud remover or vise grips to remove that bolt

    . The other bolts with a 10 mm head was very hard to loosen and i figure this is not going to be easy. I will try and put 2 nuts on the bolt and try to lock them to each other but i am sceptical. Any special tool for this or a pair of pliers?
     
    maxpower, Mar 29, 2005
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  2. torgeir jensen

    Steve Guest

    Can you identify the hole where the oil feed SHOULD be? Can you insert a
    fine wire all the way down that hole and see if you encounter any
    resistance before a hard "stop" that would be the camshaft (or the back
    of the bearing, if the bearing is rotated). If its plugged with sludge,
    you still might be able to clear it.

    Its a "stud" not a bolt.
    That's the best way to proceed.
     
    Steve, Mar 29, 2005
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  3. Rod camrod shaft bolt. Sorry I live in Norway. Worked in the US from
    1986-1989 but my language skill is not what it used to be, Sorry bear with
    me. Anyway Head has 4 "towers" which holds the rocker shaft. In one of them
    there is a hole in adition to the bolt hole. I figure this must be where the
    oil i supposed to come up into the rocker shaft. Inserted a piece of
    plastic"Fishing line"(again bear with me). It went down aprox 4-5 cm and
    then it felt like it tried to go around a corner. If i can get the "stud"
    off tomorrow i will squirt some oil in the hole and see if it gets trough.
    Since parts for this car is priced way cheaper in the US than in Norway i
    checked with two places in the US. One of them said this engine is different
    in europe and parts ordered from him would definatly not fit in a european
    version. Another parts dealer said "sure it will fit, i ship to europe al
    the time". Is one of them lying to me?


    Torgeir.
     
    torgeir jensen, Mar 29, 2005
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  4. torgeir jensen

    Steve Guest

    torgeir jensen wrote:

    I understand ok- I guess I was being unclear myself. Apologies for that!

    I was talking about the hole in the engine block where the oil comes up
    from the cam shaft and feeds (through the head gasket) into the cylinder
    head. When the head is bolted onto the block, that hole will line up
    with the hole in the head that leads to one of the 4 "towers" (rocker
    shaft pedestals).

    In other words, the test I was interested in seeing was whether you can
    put your plastic fishing line down into the engine block all the way to
    the point where that oil gallery reaches the cam bearing.
     
    Steve, Mar 30, 2005
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  5. Well cylinder head is now off and still no oil. Put a thin screwdriver dovn
    the hole and it meets metal at an angle of about 45 degrees about 7 cm down
    the hole.. It is either the cam otself or the camshaft. Strange thing. car
    has about 330 000 km on it and still i can se the honing on the cylinder
    walls and no edge on the wall at the top. Engine goes out next week and i
    will take it to a shop to change the bearings.


    Torgeir
     
    torgeir jensen, Apr 1, 2005
    #25
  6. Lot of misspelling here. I meant "The camshaft itself or the bearing". By
    the way is it best to remove engine and transmission in one piece or leave
    transmission in the car?

    Torgeir
     
    torgeir jensen, Apr 1, 2005
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  7. torgeir jensen

    maxpower Guest

    The hone marks are always there on these newer engines because the rings are
    not as hard as the old engines were, they don't wear down the
    cylinders.That's why you have no cyl ridge at the top either. That's also
    why these engines will burn more oil then the older engines.... its all
    about emissions.. if you crank the engine over and see no oil coming up at
    this point, more then likely the bearing spun
     
    maxpower, Apr 1, 2005
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  8. Well cam is out and is worn out. New cam and bearings. New rocker shaft and
    rocker arms and pushrods. Special tool required to replace cam bearings and
    engine has high mileage. I guess option is rebuildt engine or used engine
    from junkyard? Does anybody know if the 3.3 litre changed with new model in
    1995/96 or can i use engine from newer cars?

    Torgeir
     
    torgeir jensen, May 11, 2005
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