new radiator but no heat

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by andrew.wilson2000, Sep 2, 2008.

  1. I installed a new radiator in my 99 chrysler concorde with at 3.2
    litre engine. Everything is working fine but I noticed that I'm not
    getting heat from the system. I sometimes notice that the floor on the
    dirver side of the car is wet. Any suggestions will be appriciated.

    Thanks,
    Drew
     
    andrew.wilson2000, Sep 2, 2008
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  2. andrew.wilson2000

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Did you have heat before you changed the radiator?
     
    aarcuda69062, Sep 2, 2008
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  3. Yes, I forgot to mention that I had the water pump changed also. I had
    heat during last winter, but being that the weather is warm I did not
    have to use the heater. As far as I know the heat was working at the
    time the changes were made.
     
    andrew.wilson2000, Sep 2, 2008
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  4. andrew.wilson2000

    Bob Shuman Guest

    The simplest possible cause for this no heat condition is trapped air in the
    cooling system. Make sure all the air is out by filling with 50/50 mix and
    using the bleeder valve to release the air. If the coolant is filled to the
    proper level and there is no trapped air, then check./feel the inlet and
    outlet hoses going to the heater core near the firewall while you have the
    system set to call for full heat and the engine is hot and running. If you
    find the inlet hose is hot and the outlet hose is much cooler, then you
    could have blockage in the heater core. If the hoses are roughly the same
    temperature, then verify that your thermostat is the correct temperature
    (should be 195 degrees F I believe, but check the FSM) and that it was
    oriented/installed correctly. If all this checks out and both hoses to/from
    the heater core are hot, then make sure the air flow door and blower inside
    the vehicle (under the dash) is operating correctly.

    Good Luck!

    Bob


    Yes, I forgot to mention that I had the water pump changed also. I had
    heat during last winter, but being that the weather is warm I did not
    have to use the heater. As far as I know the heat was working at the
    time the changes were made.
     
    Bob Shuman, Sep 2, 2008
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  5. andrew.wilson2000

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Based on your statement that you're getting water on the drivers side
    floor, my guess is that the condensate isn't draining from the HVAC
    module when the air conditioning is running, the excess water has found
    its way into the blend door servo and caused it to rust tight.

    If you dial in different temperatures on the HVAC control head, do you
    hear any change in the way the HVAC fan sounds?
     
    aarcuda69062, Sep 2, 2008
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  6. andrew.wilson2000

    Bill Putney Guest

    I agree - probably trapped air.

    Hey Bob - which is the correct way to orient the thermostat on this
    engine (careful - it's a trick question on two different levels).

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Sep 3, 2008
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  7. andrew.wilson2000

    Bob Shuman Guest

    Bill,

    The answer is to orient it the same way that the OEM part was installed when
    you take it out. This is true of every thermostat ... whether you have the
    FSM or not! The key is always to note the orientation before removing it
    and comparing it to the new replacement part.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Sep 3, 2008
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  8. andrew.wilson2000

    Bill Putney Guest

    Actually not in this case. The factory uses a "special" thermostat, and
    they put the sensor/spring end away from the engine. The replacement
    t-stats are different, and they go in the opposite way (sensor/spring
    towards the engine - and that in fact is the way the FSM shows it.

    You may already know this, but on the LH cars, the thermostat is on the
    coolant *inlet* side of the engine (downstream side of the lower
    radiator hose). But in any case, the cars come from the factory one
    way, and the FSM for every year shows it the opposite way. Weird, eh?
    In reality, I suspect it won't matter a lot - the warm up cycle may be
    affected (slight delay or overshoot), but once the t-stat opens, it
    should pretty much operate the same.

    --
    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Sep 3, 2008
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  9. andrew.wilson2000

    Bob Shuman Guest

    Bill,

    Thanks for the tutorial. My old 3.5L (1996 Eagle Vision TSI) which went to
    my oldest son was a whole lot easier and had the T-Stat right in the housing
    so only required 2 bolts be removed to access it. My other son now has the
    old 2001 2.7L (Intrepid SE) which most likely has the design you describe.
    I guess I will be doing that replacement in the not too distant future so
    your description will come in handy. BTW, this design with the large spring
    and special thermostat in the lower hose sounds very much like the 170
    degree F thermostat used in my old 3.0L (1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT).

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Sep 3, 2008
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  10. andrew.wilson2000

    Bill Putney Guest

    Yes - it's a real PITA to change the thermostat in these engines - very
    cramped spaces, just behind the alternator (access from underneath).
     
    Bill Putney, Sep 3, 2008
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  11. Thank you all for the tips. I'll be looking at this problem over the
    weekend and will let you all know what was the results.
     
    andrew.wilson2000, Sep 5, 2008
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  12. Ok, It took me some time to post my findings, but I did have this
    problem resolved. As it turns out, I had a bad blender motor. This is
    the motor that is located below the console on the floor of the car.
    (hard to get to). It switches the hot and cold air when the a/c or
    heat is turned on. I changed it and am now happy.
     
    andrew.wilson2000, Oct 28, 2008
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