New Dodge vehicles

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Matt Whiting, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    I just got an email from Dodge about the new Caliber SRT4 and the Nitro.
    Man, what a couple of butt ugly vehicles! The rear view of the
    Caliber is especially ugly and the Nitro looks ugly from every angle.

    What is Chrysler thinking? At least the engine should be decent in the
    Caliber as I believe it is essentially the same as the 2.4L in my new
    Sonata. I believe that Hyundai, Chrysler and a third company,
    Mitusbishi I think, collaborated on this engine. Mine is powerful and
    quiet. My only complaint is that it is a little thirsty. I'm getting
    only 27 MPG in driving that is probably 70% highway. And this is with a
    24/34 rating on the Sonata with the standard tranny. I don't know the
    weight of the Caliber, but it appears that it shouldn't be much
    different than the Sonata, and lighter if anything, so it should perform
    fairly well.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Mar 15, 2006
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    Joe Guest

    The Caliber looks pretty good in person. I wouldn't buy it, but I don't
    think they'll have any trouble selling it to the target audience
    (skateboard-toting minimum wage earners).

    As for the Nitro, you may be right.
     
    Joe, Mar 15, 2006
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    Scott S. Guest

    I saw one 3 weeks ago doing some arrands while driving down 8 mile in
    Detroit. Had to take a double look. The style caught me off guard. Thought
    it was a import for a sec because of the sporty look it had with the
    hatchback. Personally I missed the hatch back years back. If I was in the
    market to buy a new car. i wouldn't think twice of get ting one. I'd get the
    diesel in it w/ the 4 wheel drive. *Looks sharp in that red*

    SCOTT
     
    Scott S., Mar 15, 2006
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    cosza Guest

    Does the Caliber come with a diesel?


     
    cosza, Mar 15, 2006
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    hachiroku Guest

    Hey, wait a minute.
    I'm not a skateboard toting min wage earner, I'm a late-year boomer with a
    pile of band (bass guitar) equipment and a pa system, and I think this would
    make a right smart Bandwagon!
     
    hachiroku, Mar 15, 2006
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    Steve Guest

    That these things will appeal toe the "kewl bloo headlights and wingZ on
    the trUnKliD!" crowd.

    Yep, the so-called "world engine." The mere fact that Mitsubishi has its
    name on the stupid thing is enough to make me not go near one until it
    establishes about 10 years of solid service record. Again, why can't
    Chrysler learn from past experience that everything Mitsubhishi touches
    turns to manure?
     
    Steve, Mar 15, 2006
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    Steve Guest

    No, a PT Cruiser would look a lot better. And its all Chrysler and no
    Mitsushitti, so the odds of actually making it to your gig before last
    call are a whole lot better.
     
    Steve, Mar 15, 2006
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    Dave Gower Guest

    Oh heck, I was thinking of buying one but now that Joe tells me I don't
    belong because I'm a retired senior citizen, guess I'll have to keep my
    Focus. Shucks.
     
    Dave Gower, Mar 15, 2006
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    maxpower Guest

    2.0 DOHC 4 cyl 16 valve Diesel

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Mar 15, 2006
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    I don't know, but it certainly should as it LOOKS like a truck from the
    front so it at least should sound the part. :)


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Mar 15, 2006
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    I saw an article somewhere that discussed which company made which
    contribution to the design, and I didn't end up being too worried about
    it. I forget exactly which parts Mitsubishi contributed though and I
    can't find the article now.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Mar 15, 2006
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    Guest Guest

    The "wingZ" on the trunklid look great on the 1930's Chryslers,
    especially the Airstreams and the Airflows!
     
    Guest, Mar 15, 2006
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  13. Besides, with a PT they might mistake you for ZZ Top.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Mar 17, 2006
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    Scott S. Guest

    I'ts the german diesel.

     
    Scott S., Mar 17, 2006
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    Steve Stone Guest

    The Caliber looks pretty good in person. I wouldn't buy it, but I don't
    I looked at a Caliber in a dealership the other day.
    It had alot of neat toys built in for the money.
    However I'm curious how well the CVT tranny works and how much maintenance
    it will need over the lifespan of the car.

    I put a deposit down on a PT Cruiser today. Plan on using it around town,
    and for my 19 year old daughter to use when she is home from college,
    home depot runs, etc. Very different car from my 2000 3ooM, but I think it
    will be a good replacement for my old K car based New Yorker,
    which is rusting out from road salt in New York.

    It was an interesting experience working thru 3 different dealers to find a
    PT Cruiser with the options that I was looking for.
    I have a 300M and a Thunderbird and was looking for basic transportation in
    the PT Cruiser.
    Reading the brochures the touring model with ABS brakes seems to be a good
    fit for my planned use but PT Cruisers with ABS were hard to find.

    The first dealer wanted to sell me a leftover loaded 2005 with a turbo for
    $24k or switch me to the Caliber.
    They suggested I should buy the Caliber now at list price because they were
    destined to be "hot" and hard to get and my daughter would not want to
    be seen dead in the PT Cruiser. Their selling point were free tires for the
    life of the car if I came in every 3,000 miles for an oil change and tire
    rotation.
    ..
    The second dealer, a local 5 star, the one I purchased the 3ooM from in 2000
    was polite,
    showed me what he had on the lot, quite a few Walter P models, and a Route
    66 model with ABS.
    The Route 66 model was overkill for my needs, none of the Walter P versions
    had ABS.
    The salesman wasn't really interested in bringing a car in from another
    dealer that was closer to my requirements..
    I was told it would be difficult to make this happen since they were not
    making much on the sale since I was using the PP plan for the purchase.

    So today I went to another 5 star dealer about 45 minutes drive to my south.
    They told me they could get a car with the options I wanted from a sister
    dealership in Connecticut,
    got the details on the car from that dealership, and said they would have it
    here in a couple of days for me to check out.
     
    Steve Stone, Mar 18, 2006
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    Guest Guest

    I believe Chrysler makes the gasoline engine and Hyundai was also in on
    the design.
    Good that the others have shaken it down.

    Yes Mitsubhishi engines have not been that great, as Chrysler found out.
     
    Guest, Mar 18, 2006
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  17. Matt Whiting

    Guest Guest

    From VW.
    I expect this engine will wait for clean diesel in NA.
     
    Guest, Mar 18, 2006
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  18. Matt Whiting

    Guest Guest

    Continuing the trend started with the Chrysler 300.
     
    Guest, Mar 18, 2006
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    ponchonutty Guest

    In the world of finances, it's all about the lowest bidder.
     
    ponchonutty, Mar 18, 2006
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    Keith Guest

    I must disagree on Mitsubishi Engines. I drive, daily, a Plymouth Laser,
    1990. with 2litre non turbo Mitsubishi engine. I have 265000 on the car and
    its engine is still sweet, doesn't drink oil, has had a couple of timing
    belts and new spark plugs each year. Performance is still 0-60 in 6.5
    seconds.
    If I only had the same confidence in my Chrysler 2.7 in my 1998 Intrepid!!
    Keith
     
    Keith, Mar 18, 2006
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