Need help with PT Cruiser problem

Discussion in 'PT Cruiser' started by Jacko, Feb 7, 2006.

  1. Jacko

    Jacko Guest

    Would another PT Cruiser owner please try the following and let me know
    what happens..

    Simply engage 'D' and drive along a level road until the Torque
    Converter locks up (about 50mph) then take your foot off the gas pedal
    and allow the car to slow down without braking. Please watch the
    tachometer and see what happens when the revs drop to about 1200rpm.

    My Cruiser (new in 2003, basic, auto and now with 28000miles) under the
    above conditions will slow normally to about 1200rpm then the revs will
    increase quickly to about 1600 with a noticeable slight acceleration.
    The revs now stay at 1500/1600 and the car will cruise along at a
    steady speed for several seconds before the revs begin to fall again.
    Doesn't sound too serious but as well as requiring extra braking it
    also gives the feeling of 'being out of control'..

    The problem appeared about 9 months ago following a service but the
    dealer is saying this is normal operation for the 41TE transmission as,
    after driving the car, the Chrysler dealer's transmission guy said the
    increase of 500 or so revs was due the torque converter unlocking, but
    could not explain why the revs did not then quickly fall from 1600. No
    error codes were found and the dealer flashed the PCM for what I did
    not find out, but the problem remains.

    I have driven new Chrysler vans with what I believe is the same 41TE
    trans, and under the above conditions they decelerate normally (for an
    auto) with just a small twitch of the tacho at around 1000rpm.
    Certainly they do not continue to cruise along at constant speed that
    corresponds to 1600rpm for several seconds.

    So, if anyone can try the above and let me know what happens then I
    will know either that all is normal or that I need to hassle the
    dealer some more.

    Thanks in advance, Jack
     
    Jacko, Feb 7, 2006
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  2. Jacko

    Richard Guest

    Might not be the transmission causing this. Perhaps the air/fuel system
    needs to be cleaned. Take off the rubber intake from the air intake and
    spray the throtle area to make sure it is not sticking and can close all the
    way.

    Richard.
     
    Richard, Feb 7, 2006
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  3. Jacko

    Jacko Guest

    Richard, Thanks for your reply.

    I don't think the transmission is at fault. I checked the throttle
    closing function when the problem first appeared and all appeared to be
    OK. Idle is normal as is everything else except during the overrun
    condition described above. When the revs increase to 1600 I cannot feel
    any movement from the throttle (such as when the cruise control is
    re-activated) but because the car accelerates slightly as the revs
    increase to 1600, then something is telling the IAC to open the
    throttle, and that something is probably the PCM . The dealer is really
    saying that what I am seeing is normal operation for a PT Cruiser and
    that is why I would appreciate another Cruiser owner telling me how
    their car behaves..

    Thanks again, Jack
     
    Jacko, Feb 7, 2006
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  4. Jacko

    Richard Guest

    I have an 01 and I don't see that idle issue with my automatic equipped
    vehicle.

    Richard.
     
    Richard, Feb 8, 2006
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  5. Jacko

    Jacko Guest

    Richard, my apologies. I didn't realise that you had added another
    message.

    This is exactly what I needed to know and I have booked another
    appointment with my dealer.

    Did anything happen on your cruiser when the revs dropped to 1200 on
    the overrun? Such as a small jump in revs that did not speed-up the
    car?

    Thanks, Jack
     
    Jacko, Feb 12, 2006
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