need help picking tires

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dave Smith, Aug 29, 2004.

  1. Dave Smith

    Dave Smith Guest

    I have a chrysler sebring convertible, the model with the 200hp engine.
    It is time to pick some new tires and I'd like to get some advice. Where
    I live we have the full four seasons, temps down to below zero on
    occasion and over 100 during the summer. I get my tires at big-o which
    offers the following for my car:

    http://www.bigotires.com/index.asp?PG=2&Sub=12a&Tire=P205/60R16

    Tire: P205/60R16

    Category, Treadwear, Traction Rating, Temp Rating
     

    Big O, EURO TOUR, 500, A, A

    DUNLOP SP SPORT A2, 420, AA, A
     
    MICHELIN ENERGY MXV4 PLUS, 400, A, A
     
    YOKOHAMA AVID H4s/V4s, 500, AA, A
     
     
    Dave Smith, Aug 29, 2004
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  2. Dave Smith

    fbloogyudsr Guest

    Although Big O has great service, their website is sadly lacking.
    Go to tirerack.com and shop for tires, then click on the "survey results"
    to get much more info than the three DOT ratings. You can also
    compare these (except for the Big O tire, unless you know who's
    actually making them for Big O)

    Floyd
     
    fbloogyudsr, Aug 29, 2004
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  3. Dave Smith

    MoPar Man Guest

    This "Euro-tour" seems to be a house brand for Big-O. I doubt you'll
    find much in the way of third-party opinions on it.
    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=HPAS

    High Performance all-season. Retails for $77 USD. Ranks a little low
    on Tire Rack's list (8'th). Over 22 million miles reported for this
    tire (one of the top-5 tires in terms of reported milage - must be a
    very widely-purchased tire). Snow traction rating of 6.7.
    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=GTAS

    This is classed as a Grand Touring All-Season tire. It's expensive -
    $109 USD. It doesn't rank that well in it's catagory (11'th out of 16
    tires). It's the volume leader in this class (23 million miles
    reported). Snow traction 5.7. Note that there is a MXV4-A Plus
    version of this tire that ranks a little better (8'th) - Snow traction
    6.2.

    Bridgestone Turanza LS is the preferred tire in this catagory (snow
    traction 7.4).
    High performance, all season. Retails for $64 USD. Ranks second in
    this catagory. VERY few miles reported (113k miles). If this tire is
    purchased by a lot of people, they aren't reporting their experiences
    on tire-rack. The few that are really like this tire. Snow traction
    rating of 7.9.

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    If you're limiting yourself to an "all-season" tire made by Dunlop,
    Yokohama, or Michelin, then you have 10 tires in your size. 7 of them
    are variations of Michelin's MXV which are all more expensive that the
    Dunlop SP Sport A2 and the 2 Yokohoma Avids (T4 and H4S).

    If you live where snow is on the road continuously each winter for
    weeks at a time, and you're NOT considering a second set of steel
    wheels for snow tires, then basically it won't really matter which
    "all-season" tire you buy - all of them will give mediocre performance
    in snow.

    In any case, given the above choices, I'd go with the Yokohoma Avid
    V4S.

    (The Bridgestone Potenza RE950 seems like best tire based on it's
    score and the number of reported miles, but I don't think it's made in
    your size).
     
    MoPar Man, Aug 30, 2004
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  4. Dave Smith

    Bill Putney Guest

    I'd avoid the Sport A2's. I'm just a sample of one, but I had to get
    rid of a set prematurely (after about 15k miles) because they got
    unbearably noisy and at least one got seriously out of round on my
    Concorde. In their defense, I think LH cars bring out the worst in a
    substandard so-called "hi-performance" tire, don't know how they'd do on
    a Sebring. I get the impression that the Sport A2's are priced low for
    a reason (i.e., no such thing as a free lunch). Keep in mind that the
    manufacturers - in general - will not make good on a warranty issue on
    any so-called "hi-performance" tire short of spontaneous
    self-destruction - so choose well. IMO, other than slightly better road
    grip, compared to a good touring tire (like the Cooper LifeLiner Touring
    SLE) they are, in general a very poor value: Cost a lot more, get 1/2 to
    1/3 the tread life, no warranty if problems develop, prone to becoming
    noisy about half-way thru their tread life due to the larger tread
    blocks.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Aug 30, 2004
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  5. Dave Smith

    Mikhael47 Guest

    I hated the Dunlops on my car. They wore real weird. I put 60 000 KM a
    year on my car. They wore off in about a year. I had my alignment done and
    shims put in and everything.

    I have a 2000 neon with 185/60R15 on them.

    Mike
     
    Mikhael47, Sep 1, 2004
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    Richard Guest

    Both Michelin and Goodyear have recently introduced a line of tires that
    have it all. 800 or so wear ratings, great hydro resistance, good snow
    traction and very good dry road characteristics. The Michelin is the
    HydroEdge, the Goodyear is the Assurance TripleTred. The Goodyear is less
    expensive and better in the snow but not quite the 800 rating of the
    Michelin.

    Richard.
     
    Richard, Sep 9, 2004
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