manufacturer rebuilt vs indy rebuilt transmission

Exactly. This proves my point. Jasper sells factory-reman junk, and what
you are calling "name brand transbuilder shops" (e.g. SCAAMCO, Cottman,
etc.) are the same.

Find a good trans tech and don't have anything go wrong in the first
place.

 

Aren't you the one who was claiming not so long ago that it's no longer
possible to reflash the TCM? Or was that "Mic Canic"? I sometimes have
trouble telling the two of you apart.

 

You can now flash BCM's PCM's and TSM's and im sure there are others that I
havent had to do yet, Mic Canic and I both work as auto techs at the dealer,
i think he has 30 yrs to my 25, but working on these every day and dealing
with the problems and the people at chrysler you get to know whats out there
and what can be done, not like doing a google search on some of the posts
and copying and pasting in the group, you no what i mean dont you Daniel?

 

Find a good trans tech and don't have anything go wrong in the first
place<<<<< Thats the whole thing finding a good tech, its not like every
year or 2 you have a trans that needs overhauled, if that were the case you
could find a good trans tech, and im sure it would be process of
illimination. So what Im saying is using a Chryrsler rebuilt puts all the
problems back on Chrysler if there were a problem, better for the customer
all around, Doesnt that make sense to you Daniel??

 

......and just WHAT is that failure rate, Daniel, and when should it occur? I am
approaching 68,000 miles and more than 3 years on my Chrysler rebuilt. I guess
I should really satrt worrying, shouldn't I? NOT!!!!!!!!!

 

.....and that is why you are YOU, Daniel, and the rest of us are glad we aren't.
FYI - my unit isn't remanufactured trash..............but nothing will convince
you of that because you are YOU, and the rest of us are glad we aren't.

 

Not all that difficult, just involves some homework, time and effort.

Unless you buy cruddy "remans".

No. It doesn't. Picking the least-worst cleanup process for problems is
decidedly less practical and sensible than preventing the problem in the
first place.

 

LOL ok Dan C

 

"Daniel J. Stern" replied:

Yah, sure, you betcha, Daniel!!?? When the tranny craps out and the vehicle
will not move (as in my case three years ago) and I need it yesterday, I am
going to take time, effort and homework to search through the mechanics in my
town so that I can find a good one who will do the work and have it ready for
me by the end of the day today so I don't miss another day of work. Get
real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

So shop around while your vehicle is not able to move for a good trans tech,
some of your posts make no sense, Did you copy and paste this reply? Are you
related to Dan C, I get the 2 of you mixed up

 

I'm hoping you goofed here or I read it wrong.

If not, you've been had with more then just "substantial mark-up".

 

Thanks for the correction. I only "assumed" quarts as that is how I always buy
tranny fluid. In actuality, since the capacity of the tranny is 9.1 quarts with
an overhaul, and my billl states 4 - 5010125-AA - - Fluid ATF 1081018 @$12.50
each, for a total of $50, each one of these must be 2.5 quarts???? Is that
better?

 

Well, On my Pontiac, I had a complete rebuild done at Mr T for $2300
canadian - and that included several upgrades, including a governor
modification.
The "factory" rebuild was almost twice the price (from GM)

 

My experience over the last several decades is you get a fairly high
"infant mortality" rate out of so-called "factory" remans.

If they go 90 days without ANY problems you are usually in pretty good
shape.

As Dan'l stated, the "reman" factory is usually an assembly line of
untrained workers who know nothing about transmissions other than how
to install a particular part or assemble a particular assembly. They
are working for just over minimum wage.

As many "used and inspected" parts as possible are used in the
assembly, and the inspection is often done by inspectors with no more
training than the assemblers - and as long as the part has a fighting
chance of surviving the warranty period, it passes.

If the warranty is not transferrable, even a 3 year warranty is not
much of a risk, as the average owner keeps a car for less than the
warranty period.

I have had experience with "factory rebuilt" engines - old Chrysler
318s and Slant Six engines- where camshafts were pitted, and lifters
were convex, causing valve noise right out of the crate. Others with
virtually no oil pressure at idle when warm. Others with missing cam
bearings, or crankshaft thrust bearings installed backwards. Others
with oil gallery plugs not installed - or casting plugs left out.

Never had those problems with a local rebuilder who "reconditioned"
the engine I sent in for repair.

With starters and alternators, I had TERRIBLE luck with "factory
remans" - to the point I would usually repair them myself. And rebuilt
carbs? They were a REAL crap-shoot. Much farther ahead to buy a
Jiffy-kit and do it myself.

I have never used a "factory reman" automatic as I have always had at
least 2 reputable, experienced, qualified tranny shops to chose from
locally. I've never had a problem with one of these"repaired" trannies
- and sometimes we went cheep and just fixed what was wrong.
In cases where we had a really "munched" one, I'd get a used one, have
it dissassembled, inspected, and adjusted, and pop it in.
Occaisionally I'd find one with next to no miles and pop it in "as
is".

On my own '88 New Yorker the tranny went sour somewhere north of
200,000 Km and a rebuild was looking like $2300. I found a tranny out
of a Spirit (last year they were made, can't remember exactly) with
less than 30,000Km for $350 Cnd. Exactly the same tranny, except for
the speedo gear (mine had electronic dash).

 

Well, as you and Daniel are both in Canada and I am not I guess i should be
glad I am not. BTW - almost 68,000 miles and over three years on my rebuilt
Chrysler tranny.

 

The remanufactured unit put in my '96 T&C LXi over three years ago was $2199
U.S. out-the-door.

 

I guess what he is saying is, start trying to find a good trans tech now????

 

Who knows? But I can assure you it ain't gonna happen!

 

That P/N is a gallon of ATF+3 - and it does list for about $13/gallon.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')

 

Yabbut,

a) nothing worth doing is ever the easiest option, and
b) its not THAT hard.