Magnum EFI to carb conversion

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Bret Ludwig, Nov 25, 2005.

  1. Bret Ludwig

    Bret Ludwig Guest

    Let's say hypothetically I have a Magnum 318 Dodge truck with a dead
    ECM and I want to get rid of the ECM entirely. I know there is a carb
    manifold available, will a standard electronic or points distributor
    fit these engines? Or is there an aftermarket one that does and
    provides conventional triggering and advance mechanisms?

    If it has an automatic, does its box need the data from the ECM and if
    it does, can it be rewired to use other inputs or a
    non-electronic-engine box?
     
    Bret Ludwig, Nov 25, 2005
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  2. Year of truck, please?

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Nov 25, 2005
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  3. Bret Ludwig

    philthy Guest

    you will spend more money and time to convert than buying a new pcm
     
    philthy, Nov 26, 2005
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  4. Bret Ludwig

    Stan Weiss Guest

    Email David and see if he repairs this model. I had ECM for my Geo
    Tracker repaired by him, Great service.
    david ruberg <>
    Stan
     
    Stan Weiss, Nov 27, 2005
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  5. Bret Ludwig

    Tom Line Guest

    I've driven both, and it seems to me that the ECM yields more power,
    smoother warm-ups etc. If it was lean-burn, I'd say go for it. But not the
    ECM.

    : Let's say hypothetically I have a Magnum 318 Dodge truck with a dead
    : ECM and I want to get rid of the ECM entirely. I know there is a carb
    : manifold available, will a standard electronic or points distributor
    : fit these engines? Or is there an aftermarket one that does and
    : provides conventional triggering and advance mechanisms?
    :
    : If it has an automatic, does its box need the data from the ECM and if
    : it does, can it be rewired to use other inputs or a
    : non-electronic-engine box?
    :

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    Tom Line

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    Tom Line, Nov 28, 2005
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  6. Bret Ludwig

    Steve Guest

    As far as I know, a circa 1973 full-function (trigger, mech. advance,
    and vacuum advance) distributor for a 318 will fit in the engine and cna
    fire a standard circa 1973 Mopar ignition module (or GM HEI module since
    we're in the custom realm anyway ;-)) The big question that I do not
    know for certain is whether or not there's room back there for the
    vacuum advance on the side of the distributor to swing around to allow
    you to set the timing- that's more vehicle-dependent than engine
    dependent, since the carb-type manifold WILL have clearance for the
    distribuor.
    That depends on the year of the truck. From the start of the Mangnums
    until about 1996, the transmission only used electronic controls for two
    things: 1) locking the convertor, and 2) engaging overdrive. Those
    signals came from the PCM, but a lot of guys that put these trannies in
    old muscle cars just used toggle switches, and there is a little "black
    box" available to do it automatically without a full PCM. The rub is
    that starting around 1996, Chrysler got rid of the hydraulic governor in
    that transmission, and used a tonewheel type outputs speed sensor that
    generated a signal fed to the PCM. The PCM in turn combined this with
    other inputs and sent a signal back to an actuator in a modified version
    of the valve body and thus was involved in ALL the shift-points and
    shift-rates. That's a much harder system to duplicate than the earlier
    trnamission that still retained a full hydrualic governor.
     
    Steve, Nov 28, 2005
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  7. Tom, Bret's a moron and a troll. He's made that abundantly clear in
    rec.autos.makers.chrysler, babbling ignorantly about all kinds of stuff he
    clearly doesn't understand.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Nov 28, 2005
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  8. Bret Ludwig

    dodge-him Guest

    I converted a 88 dodge Carburetored truck and the original wiring was
    left hooked up and taped over to run the electronic lock up and such
    and new was wired in as per instructions! Yes as far as I know all you
    need is a intake and carburetor and the electronic conversion kit.

    What year is it and what body style Dakota or ram?
    Barry A. Lee
     
    dodge-him, Nov 28, 2005
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  9. Bret Ludwig

    Bret Ludwig Guest

    You're a real ****-penis these days, Stern.

    I asked the question, "hypothetically" because I wanted to know if it
    could be done, just out of curiosity, not with any specific year in
    mind or whether it was all that great an idea.

    You bust my balls on every little thing, just to obscure the big
    picture, on which I am pretty knowledgeable compared to most people.
     
    Bret Ludwig, Dec 1, 2005
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