Lump in idle Revisited

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Richard, Jul 16, 2007.

  1. Richard

    Richard Guest

    My 01 PT Cruiser had a very lumpy idle when the air was running. Thanks to
    postings in response to my post I discovered the following.

    The high speed fan did not come on when the air was running. This caused
    Freon to escape the system reducing pressure in the system causing the
    compressor to turn on and off rapidly.

    I put in a new fan assembly and the fan works as designed now. Had a shop
    re-pressure the system. Much better but not perfect. [May have a small leak,
    perhaps in the evaporator].

    Then I learned that Chrysler had changed the plug gap recommendation from
    ..05 to .04. During this regap procedure I discovered that the hose holder
    mount had been placed between the intake manifold sections instead of on top
    of the end section. With both issues corrected the lumps are purged from the
    idle. Thanks for all the suggestions.

    Richard
     
    Richard, Jul 16, 2007
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  2. Richard

    maxpower Guest

    I think I have been telling you this from the beginning.

    Glenn
     
    maxpower, Jul 17, 2007
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  3. Richard

    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi...

    Accidentally discovered something interesting about the lump in
    mine (94 lhs) today, and curious what might be causing it.

    Was idling in the driveway today (full auto) when neighbour stopped to
    talk. Rolled down the window. After a couple of minutes, cool air in
    my face became unpleasant, so I pushed the AC button (to off).
    A second or two later the engine rpm's dropped suddenly to about
    500, then slowly came back.

    Interesting, so tried it several times, same result. Seems the
    engine slows when the compressor dis-engages.

    Any thoughts?

    Take care.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Jul 17, 2007
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  4. Richard

    maxpower Guest

    Ken, the program in the PCM is designed to raise the idle when the a/c turns
    on and then lowers it when the compressor cycles off. This is normal.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Jul 17, 2007
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  5. Richard

    Richard Guest

    Glenn, although the new fan assembly cured the lack of high speed fan out of
    the assembly, it is strange that the old assembly did go into high speed
    when I bypassed the high speed relay.

    I know that Chrysler changed the spark gap recommendation for the normal
    fuel injected enginein the Cruiser from .05 to .04, do you know if they did
    this for other motors as well, and do you know the reason?

    To anyone thinking of doing the fan assemble themselves in the Cruiser, I
    can report that it is not so hard, takes about an hour the first time.

    Richard
     
    Richard, Jul 18, 2007
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    philthy Guest

    how about it's suppose to do that

     
    philthy, Jul 19, 2007
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